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                                                13th October 11, 11:41 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	in any group of three people, nine times out of ten, you have a good chance of getting at least three opinions   - (and welcome back alan - glad to "see ya bacK!)
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Alan H   Wow. This is a really long thread. waulk softly and carry a big schtick
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                18th December 11, 08:58 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Well Steve,
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Steve Ashton   Ladies and Gentlemen of X Marks.
 There seems to have been a lot of posts recently about "The right way to wear a kilt."  or "What is or is not proper with the kilt."
 
 Just so there are no mistakes about what X Marks is, let me state this as plainly as I can.
 
 This is a kilt forum.  It is where those who wear the kilt, appreciate the kilt, or can identify a kilt 2 times out of 3 without having to look in the back of the book, can gather and share our love of this garment we call the kilt.
 
 It does not matter how you wear your kilt or what type of kilt you wear.  It is not about what you wear with your kilt.
 
 There are no, and will not be any, Kilt Kops on X Marks.  A member can post photos of how they choose to wear their kilt.   A member can ask other members for opinions on how their kilt looks.  A member can state their preference for their chosen accessories.
 
 But so far no one has been able to come up with a single definition of what a kilt is.
 We have as many opinions on what is worn with a kilt as we have members.
 It would be the height of egotism for one member to tell another that they are wearing their kilt wrong.
 
 We have members from the Scottish highlands, the lowlands, from elsewhere in the UK, from N. America, Europe, S. Africa, Japan, and about everywhere else you can think of. We even have a member who wintered over in Antarctica with his kilt.
 
 We are a community of kilt wearers.  We share and respect the kilt in all its forms and in all the ways it can be worn.  Of course we will sometimes disagree among ourselves but when someone outside of our community attempts to tell a member that they are wrong or cannot wear the kilt we band together in support.
 
 Our community is made up of individuals.  Individuals who are strong willed, opinionated, self-confidant, and even, sometimes, eccentric. Each has their own reason for wearing the kilt. Even our advertisers and staff participate here as individual members first.
 
 As individuals we can share our opinions.  We can offer advice from our own experiences and preferences.  We can even state "I would not wear my kilt that way", but we always respect each other for their experiences and preferences.
 
 This forum will welcome anyone who wears, or wishes to wear, the kilt.
 
 Kilt Kops? Well, you're free to tell me that you would not wear your kilt a particular way.  What you can't do is try to tell me I am wrong to wear my kilt my way.
 
 Actually, I guess you can try. Just remember that if you do try, you had better bring friends, lots of friends.  Because I've got 15,000 X Marks members on my side.
 That is best thing Ive seen on here in a long time.
 sanx so much.
 
 Ever member should have read this & sign it.
 
 Craig
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                18th December 11, 09:29 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Actually, what Steve said there is one of the things that makes me feel like I'm in the right when I'm getting sh*t from someone about the kilt...I've got the forum behind me and that whole attitude of "if it's a kilt, it's all right" to fall back on.
 Best
 
 AA
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                18th December 11, 09:39 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	... & yet there are those who want to tell us what to wear & when.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by auld argonian   Actually, what Steve said there is one of the things that makes me feel like I'm in the right when I'm getting sh*t from someone about the kilt...I've got the forum behind me and that whole attitude of "if it's a kilt, it's all right" to fall back on.
 Best
 
 AA
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd December 11, 06:27 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I was at a dinner last night. I was wearing my green Prince Charlie set with a proper shirt and rouche tie when a rather pompous man, who was not wearing a kilt by the way, came up to me and asked what the tartan of my kilt was. I told him I was wearing the Stewart Hunting (ancient) tartan as can be seen in my avatar. I think it goes beautifully with my green PC.He promptly told me that I was improperly dressed. That one only wears a dress tartan with a Prince Charlie. I always though any kilt could be dressed up or down depending on the accessories one wore.  Did I commit a dastardly sin?
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd December 11, 06:38 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					  Originally Posted by sailortats   I was at a dinner last night. I was wearing my green Prince Charlie set with a proper shirt and rouche tie when a rather pompous man, who was not wearing a kilt by the way, came up to me and asked what the tartan of my kilt was. I told him I was wearing the Stewart Hunting (ancient) tartan as can be seen in my avatar. I think it goes beautifully with my green PC.He promptly told me that I was improperly dressed. That one only wears a dress tartan with a Prince Charlie. I always though any kilt could be dressed up or down depending on the accessories one wore.  Did I commit a dastardly sin?
 The short answer is; no you did not commit a dastardly sin.
 
 Given the Scots penchant for owning just one kilt then they make do with one kilt to do all things and no one gives a damn about "dress" tartans. Yes, there are some who might own a "dress" Clan tartan kilt too, but not many of us bother.
 
 In the Victorian and Edwardian eras then these finer kilt attire details did matter to some, but even then it was , I think, a mere detail.
 " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants".  Field Marshal Lord Slim.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd December 11, 06:46 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	If so, then there are a whole lot of kilted sinners out there!
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by sailortats   I was at a dinner last night,,,when a rather pompous man...promptly told me that I was improperly dressed. That one only wears a dress tartan with a Prince Charlie...Did I commit a dastardly sin?  
 These types of encounters never ceases to amaze me. Wherever do these ideas spring from?
 
 Come to think on it, I've seen many women wear dress tartan but very few men.
 
				
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			 Virginia Commissioner, Elliot Clan Society, USAAdjutant, 1745 Appin Stewart Regiment
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                                                23rd December 11, 06:59 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					(With barely restrained laughter) :  "Where do you get such nonsense?
				 Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd December 11, 09:59 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Sometimes it is hard to keep a straight face. The other day at the grocery store I had an equally pompous "expert" ask me what tartan I was wearing, and ask if I was a member of that clan, then shake her finger at me and tell me I had no right to wear that clan's tartan. I just said "yes, ma'am, sorry ma'am I'll go right home and take it off." That was just going to be far easier than explaining that the Black Watch is not a clan................
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Father Bill   (With barely restrained laughter) :  "Where do you get such nonsense? 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd December 11, 10:03 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					My own understanding is that the white "dress" tartans were designed in the Victorian era for women to wear. Although many men have now taken to wearing a dress tartan kilt there are still some men who shun dress variants altogether
 As for rules. Absolutely not. It's a mystery where some of these strange ideas come from
 
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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