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30th December 11, 03:24 PM
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Re: Scottish Arms and Nobility
What sort of "unfortunate" Irish company did Gayre keep?
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30th December 11, 04:52 PM
#2
Re: Scottish Arms and Nobility
 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
What sort of "unfortunate" Irish company did Gayre keep?
Terrance Mccarthy
http://www.heraldica.org/topics/orders/icoc.html
International Commission on Orders of Chivalry (1996)
• President:
Lt. Col. Gayre of Gayre and Nigg (†)
• Vice-President:
The MacCarthy Mór, Prince of Desmond
• Chairman:
The Rt. Hon. the Lord Borthwick of that Ilk
• Secretary-General:
Lt. Colonel Baron O'Kelly de Conejera
I know very little about Col. Gayre, other than to note that those who kept such company wound up on very unfortunate ground.
So, you made mention of the Col. so I thought I'd follow up.
Happy New Year to you and yours.
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30th December 11, 09:59 PM
#3
Gayre and the ICOC... setting the record straight
 Originally Posted by Gregmc
Terrance Mccarthy
http://www.heraldica.org/topics/orders/icoc.html
International Commission on Orders of Chivalry (1996)
• President:
Lt. Col. Gayre of Gayre and Nigg (†)
• Vice-President:
The MacCarthy Mór, Prince of Desmond
• Chairman:
The Rt. Hon. the Lord Borthwick of that Ilk
• Secretary-General:
Lt. Colonel Baron O'Kelly de Conejera
I know very little about Col. Gayre, other than to note that those who kept such company wound up on very unfortunate ground.
So, you made mention of the Col. so I thought I'd follow up.
Happy New Year to you and yours.
Terrence McCarthy, the con man who most definitely was not the MacCarthy Mór, created his own International Commission on Orders of Chivalry after both Gayre and Borthwick had died in 1996. He was assisted in this effort by his close friend Patrick O'Kelly, who, by deed poll, changed his name to O'Kelly de Conejera in 1958, shorty after the death of his father. (His father, by the way, does not seem to have ever used any territorial designation during his lifetime, so one can only speculate where the "de Conejera" came from.)
At the time McCarthy created his ICOC the original organization (which was founded by Gayre) had been moribund for about ten years, and it appears as if this was done to assist McCarthy in the sale of bogus titles, and to enhance his sense of self aggrandizement.
So, in the very real sense, neither Gayre nor Borthwick had anything to do with McCarthy's "medal collecting" club.
With best wishes for a Happy and Prosperous New Year!
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