Elizabeth Queen of Scots

[kilted scholar]

You may be interested in this item on the BBC iPlayer (soon to be removed) on the relationship between Elizabeth II and Scotland. There is a vast plenitude of kilts on display, an array so great that I daresay it would be extremely difficult to number them.

Purists on blood pressure medicine would be advised to have some ready to hand. There are a good number of hapless punters in white hose, I spotted several wearing ties of the same tartan as the kilt, and some distinguished gents receiving honours from Her Majesty displayed scarcely any daylight between kilt and sock. Mercifully no flat caps were visible.

That aside, this is an entertaining, enlightening and visually fascinating programme.

See http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ueen_of_Scots/
before it is too late.

[auld argonian]

Sadly, unavailable to those of us in the USA...we'll just have to wait.

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AA

[clanciankent]

You may be interested in this item on the BBC iPlayer (soon to be removed) on the relationship between Elizabeth II and Scotland. There is a vast plenitude of kilts on display, an array so great that I daresay it would be extremely difficult to number them.

Purists on blood pressure medicine would be advised to have some ready to hand. There are a good number of hapless punters in white hose, I spotted several wearing ties of the same tartan as the kilt, and some distinguished gents receiving honours from Her Majesty displayed scarcely any daylight between kilt and sock. Mercifully no flat caps were visible.

That aside, this is an entertaining, enlightening and visually fascinating programme.

See http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ueen_of_Scots/
before it is too late.

[Phil]

Programmes such as this do raise the interesting conundrum of just who is entitled to wear the kilt? There are some here who would insist that only native born Scots from the Highlands of Scotland have that right so the same question must arise about the Saxe-Coburg Gotha dynasty (recently re-named Windsor), none of whom were born or live in Scotland (apart from a holiday home there) nor even have any Scottish ancestors apart from a distant relative of George I, descended from the Stuarts. Until the late wife of George VI they didn't even marry British people, confining themselves to German and other European princesses, and even she insisted publicly that she was not Scottish as some used to imply but was born and bred English.
I have no issues with them wearing kilts and, in fact, it has very probably ensured the continued wearing and popularity of the garment but I would like to ask how this sits with those who take a contrary view about eligibility for kilt-wearing.

[thescot]

Too bad we can't get the iPlay in the US.

@Phil: I would opine that I have a God-given right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The wearing of the kilt is neither a right nor a privilege; it's a choice of sartorial self-expression I thnk. While some obviously object to non-Scots or even non-highlanders wearing the kilt, I don't think it's a question of "rights," pre se. Perhaps a question of ettiquette or good manners, but not a right. Besides, some would even claim that the current philabeag style kilt was invented by an Englishman. I'll bet that claim chaps a few behinds, whether true or not!

[auld argonian]

Phil, by recently renamed Windsor, you mean since 1917....

....I always admire the sense of history the folks in the UK have....for us over here it was a long ways back but, since your history is so long, it's a little while ago!

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[thescot]

Phil, by recently renamed Windsor, you mean since 1917....

....I always admire the sense of history the folks in the UK have....for us over here it was a long ways back but, since your history is so long, it's a little while ago!

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AA

Yeah, me, too. I remember seeing a baptismal font that pre-dated 1066 in chesterfield. I was thinking, "There's almost nothing extant in the U.S. that I am likely to see that is that old." I know, I know, there are ancient ruins and such around, so please don't lecture me about ancient civilations on the American continents , but that font was still being used!

HRH the Duke of Rothesay has shoes older that most of the houses around here!

[kilted scholar]

Sadly, unavailable to those of us in the USA...we'll just have to wait.

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AA

That's a pity - but I expect it'll show up sooner or later on PBS.

[madmacs]

HRH the Duke of Rothesay has shoes older that most of the houses around here!

Off topic I know, but I really do wish everything over here didnt get demolished the way it does in the name of progress... Even 50's/60's architecture is fading...

There is a nice st louis website http://www.builtstlouis.net/ which is worth a wander through if architecture interests anyone...

[McClef]

I have just had a very enjoyable hour watching the programme on iplayer.

There are kilts in profusion! and the footage of the award ceremonies at Holyrood shows all kind of accompanying items (eg ruche ties, PCs being worn in daytime) that would have some folk up in arms but HM turns not a hair.

The comments of the Chief Minister are also enlightening as to a continued royal relationship with Scotland.

Alas the Earl of Strathearn is not shown kilted

Some great old movie news films in it too.