Prince Charles Duke of Rothesay in kilt photos

[McClef]

Do I see a belt with a waistcoat in that magazine photo?

[Phil]

Do I see a belt with a waistcoat in that magazine photo?

Definitely a belt but I think it is over a velvet doublet. But should we not be asking the more serious question? Namely what is someone who was born and lives in England doing wearing a kilt in the Lowlands of Scotland? This is surely a matter to exercise our Highland compatriots as we are well aware of the views they hold on such unsuitable behaviour.

[M. A. C. Newsome]

Do I see a belt with a waistcoat in that magazine photo?

I think what you are seeing, Trevor, is a waist belt worn over a closed velvet doublet.

[Jock Scot]

Definitely a belt but I think it is over a velvet doublet. But should we not be asking the more serious question? Namely what is someone who was born and lives in England doing wearing a kilt in the Lowlands of Scotland? This is surely a matter to exercise our Highland compatriots as we are well aware of the views they hold on such unsuitable behaviour.

I suppose it demonstrates that whatever his future Highland subjects may, or may not think, he is entitled to plough his own furrow. He will not be the first member of the British Monarchy, Scots too, not to worry too much about what the Highlanders think.

[sailortats]

Some of the checkered topped hose can be ordered from Macdonald Sporrans at buyakilt.com. I have bought a few things from them so far and have been very ploeased with the service and the product.

[McClef]

The picture is somewhat dark so we will have to give him the benefit of the doubt.

And Phil - well the Her late Majesty, the Queen Mother was born in England yet she would not have thanked anyone for not thinking her to be Scottish and Princess Margaret was born at Glamis yet perhaps had less contact with Scotland than most of her English born relatives.

Place of birth is obviously not the whole story...

[McMurdo]

The picture is somewhat dark so we will have to give him the benefit of the doubt.

And Phil - well the Her late Majesty, the Queen Mother was born in England yet she would not have thanked anyone for not thinking her to be Scottish and Princess Margaret was born at Glamis yet perhaps had less contact with Scotland than most of her English born relatives.

Place of birth is obviously not the whole story...

Trefor this is the same doublet that Charles wears regularity, here are a couple of other photos of it:





I think taken together these dispel any myth that HRH is wearing anything but a doublet with a belt outside.

[Peter Crowe]

Yes .... William of Orange and his foray into Glencoe for a massacre 'to encourage the others' springs to mind. Am I correct in thinking that the monarch of the day does not have subjects in Scotland where the people are regarded as sovereign dating back to the Declaration of Arbroath and before - "Him, too, divine providence, his right of succession according to our laws and customs which we shall maintain to the death, and the due consent and assent of us all have made our Prince and King. ....Yet [should he prove false,] we should exert ourselves at once to drive him out as our enemy and a subverter of his own rights and ours, and make some other man who was well able to defend us our King;" ? Bearing in mind that there was no union of crowns in 1603 but the continuation of the Stuart dynasty over both nations, the pre-existing custom in Scotland must still exist requiring the expressed will and wishes of the people of Scotland - a quite different situation from that in England.
I know there are doubts also about the English Parliament being supreme in Scotland under the 1707 Act of Union too.

Ah yes, this all brings to memory the famous decision in the case of McCormick versus HM Advocate and the Lord President, Lord Cameron's opinion (Obiter Dicta)

[Phil]

Trefor this is the same doublet that Charles wears regularity, here are a couple of other photos of it:





I think taken together these dispel any myth that HRH is wearing anything but a doublet with a belt outside.

Yes I have one the same -


but wear the belt underneath.

[creagdhubh]

I suppose it demonstrates that whatever his future Highland subjects may, or may not think, he is entitled to plough his own furrow. He will not be the first member of the British Monarchy, Scots too, not to worry too much about what the Highlanders think.

Quite so.