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    Re: An Open Question for 'Jock Scot' (and Scots)

    Quote Originally Posted by piperdbh View Post
    Is this really worth all the arguing? What's being accomplished here?
    Very little at this point.

    After a week or two of these threads, I'm taking the pledge...no matter how tempting it is to my opinionated, middle aged mind, I am not going to comment on threads of this type ever again. I think it's jolly good of Jock to have done his informal surveys and they are, indeed, food for thought but I think that too many people are reading too much into it and I sincerely hope that Jock isn't thinking "no good deed goes unpunished" right now.

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    ANOTHER KILTED LEBOWSKI AND...HEY, CAREFUL, MAN, THERE'S A BEVERAGE HERE!

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    Re: An Open Question for 'Jock Scot' (and Scots)

    The last 2 posts have to be some of the best opinions on this thread. Jock has done a great job with his polls and they were other peoples opinions to questions asked. Jock has his opinions on kilts and who wears them, so do I , so do you. Anyone can justify, or attempt to, as to why they do something. Some will agree, some won't, but to get upset because your justifcation is not understood or agreed with is like the schoolyard cries of "is so, is not"
    Shoot straight you bastards. Don't make a mess of it. Harry (Breaker) Harbord Morant - Bushveldt Carbineers

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    Re: An Open Question for 'Jock Scot' (and Scots)

    Quote Originally Posted by auld argonian View Post
    Very little at this point.

    After a week or two of these threads, I'm taking the pledge...no matter how tempting it is to my opinionated, middle aged mind, I am not going to comment on threads of this type ever again. I think it's jolly good of Jock to have done his informal surveys and they are, indeed, food for thought but I think that too many people are reading too much into it and I sincerely hope that Jock isn't thinking "no good deed goes unpunished" right now.

    Best

    AA
    Worry not AA, that is not what I am thinking and never have. Thus far today, my thoughts are concentrated on; "I am not sure that I like this new marmalade and should I have some more toast to confirm my thoughts?"

    Decisions decisions, oh what to do?
    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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    Re: An Open Question for 'Jock Scot' (and Scots)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    ...Thus far today, my thoughts are concentrated on; "I am not sure that I like this new marmalade and should I have some more toast to confirm my thoughts?"

    Decisions decisions, oh what to do?




    I'm thinking we have beat this dead horse to death repeatedly over the last few weeks and its time to bury the poor beast.
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    Re: An Open Question for 'Jock Scot' (and Scots)

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    I'm thinking we have beat this dead horse to death repeatedly over the last few weeks and its time to bury the poor beast.
    I shall bring some fine single malt to the wake.

    Do we have someone to volunteer as a bagpiper?

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    Re: An Open Question for 'Jock Scot' (and Scots)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Worry not AA, that is not what I am thinking and never have. Thus far today, my thoughts are concentrated on; "I am not sure that I like this new marmalade and should I have some more toast to confirm my thoughts?"

    Decisions decisions, oh what to do?
    There's the Jock we all know and love. Soldier on man, and never let us stand between a man and his marmalade.

    By the way, have ye fixed yer defensive perimeter and set yer scouts yet, as the invasion is coming. But now that the element of surprise is lost it may require some more reconnaissance from our standpoint before launching the offensive. Now where did I leave that super secret CIA drone? The spy plane, not the part of the bagpipes.

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    Re: An Open Question for 'Jock Scot' (and Scots)

    Quote Originally Posted by ForresterModern View Post
    There's the Jock we all know and love. Soldier on man, and never let us stand between a man and his marmalade.

    By the way, have ye fixed yer defensive perimeter and set yer scouts yet, as the invasion is coming. But now that the element of surprise is lost it may require some more reconnaissance from our standpoint before launching the offensive. Now where did I leave that super secret CIA drone? The spy plane, not the part of the bagpipes.
    jeff

    I'm a trained Marine so I'm not worried any by a few bits of wire, hungry dogs, Jock's field gun, or the odd explosive or two - save that he might have wired one to a decoy bottle of single malt. Rather than wear a kilt, which will betray me as a non-Scot if I'm spotted, I'll probably dress in tweeds as a deception.
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    Re: An Open Question for 'Jock Scot' (and Scots)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Worry not AA, that is not what I am thinking and never have. Thus far today, my thoughts are concentrated on; "I am not sure that I like this new marmalade and should I have some more toast to confirm my thoughts?"

    Decisions decisions, oh what to do?
    Wonderful Jock, you are a fine, reasonable and apparently very patient, sane, generous and understanding man. I was not going to put up any further posts in this thread because for me it could have (and for me, should have) ended back on page 11 when you kindly responded to my queries and clarified -- and I must say excellently -- what you have been trying to say all along, except perhaps in words some of us Yanks just didn't understand. No doubt I pressed you as hard or harder than any; after all, I belong to the profession whose founder was executed for asking too many pointed questions! I hope you know that my only motivation was to try to better understand (rather than misunderstand) you. No offense was either implied or taken for my part in any of it. In that kindly given response it seemed to me that you made it perfectly clear that you are not saying, and never have said, that you can't understand why someone who is not now living in the highlands would ever want to -- and should not -- wear a kilt. In fact, you gave (and have given) plenty of examples to the contrary (I think I like the "pulls" the girls and "comfort" ones best, but that's just me). You even said you'd lend a kilt of your own to an Australian who might have been invited to "play at" being a Scot at a Scottish themed "fancy dress" "affair." Yet, some of us "Yanks" just didn't seem to "get it." Language can be a slippery thing. While in the Navy I had several occasions to go on "liberty" with sailors from other English speaking nations (Australia, Canada, UK) and though we all got along famously for the most part (who wouldn't out drinking beer?), we sometimes had difficulties communicating. For example, in the sentence above words like "play at" "fancy dress" and "affair" are notoriously ambiguous and open to many interpretations which might lead to someone taking offense -- or a good laugh! Personally, I prefer laughing much more than being offended. As far as I can tell, the only thing you "don't get" is someone who is not a highlander (i.e., someone not actually living in the highlands) wearing a kilt as though it were their national/cultural dress. Quite frankly, I don't get that either because that would either be a flat out contradiction or an example of deceit. All the other stuff about personal tastes etc. is just good fun to which I certainly do not, and would hope others would not, take offense. Oh yea, buy the way, I don't much like marmalade at all although I'm rather partial to apricot jam. I'm pretty sure you're not offended by that! Off now to drink coffee and eat a blueberry scone; Cheers! Affectionately, Paul -- [P.S. I'm not much one for participating in invasions but if you'd like some help defending your castle, I'd be honored to help man the parapets.]

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