Re-sizing a Lochcarron Kilt...

**ChattanCat** · 16th January 12, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by Ryan Ross

I still have the removed sections of pleats (which were indeed cut out in the fell portion) that Matt took out; additional material was not available, and apparently, was not necessary. I have no doubt that Matt took great care and exercised much skill in preforming this procedure (twice on one kilt, and once on each side of another kilt).

I still stand by my assertion that your statement, "If the pleats were not cut out then you could remove one or more pleats each side of the apron edges that you just removed the apron edges from.You cannot simply eliminate a pleat on each if the pleats were cut out between the bottom of the fell and the top of the kilt though", was misleading, indicating to the less experienced that it was not possible.

It depends on where the cut out pleats were done. If they were done in the center back or there abouts, no worries mate.

Cheers,

**Ryan Ross** · 16th January 12, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by ChattanCat

It depends on where the cut out pleats were done. If they were done in the center back or there abouts, no worries mate.

Cheers,

I'm afraid you've gone well beyond my knowledge base now, my friend, as I am no kiltmaker. I can tell you though that the sections of pleats that Matt removed were on either side, and not from the center.

**denmcdough** · 16th January 12, 08:41 PM

Thought I'd chime in and give my opinion. Wally Catanach (ChattanCat), of Waterfall Kilts, is an engineering professor at Penn State. He's done four kilts for my family, and I take what he says as dead serious. I'm no kilt maker, so I can't really discuss the intricacies, but making a kilt is all about math, and who better to tackle this than an engineer. Wally knows his stuff!

To be sure, Matt is awesome, too, but I've not had the opportunity for a Newsome kilt, yet. I can only speak for what I've seen.

**Ryan Ross** · 16th January 12, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by denmcdough

Thought I'd chime in and give my opinion. Wally Catanach (ChattanCat), of Waterfall Kilts, is an engineering professor at Penn State. He's done four kilts for my family, and I take what he says as dead serious. I'm no kilt maker, so I can't really discuss the intricacies, but making a kilt is all about math, and who better to tackle this than an engineer. Wally knows his stuff!

To be sure, Matt is awesome, too, but I've not had the opportunity for a Newsome kilt, yet. I can only speak for what I've seen.

Both of the gentlemen in question are very fine kiltmakers, and I'm not trying to say otherwise. But Matt has a proven track record of altering kilts in huge ways with remarkable success, and that is a fact (and more than speculation).

Like I keep saying, fellows- ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE IF IT HAPPENS.

Right now, my computer is sitting atop a cedar chest that contains not one, but two kilts which have been altered in the fashion that Mr. Catanach previously claimed was not possible. Not trying to sound snarky, but talk is not worth as much to me as results that I can see and touch.

And I'd like to add again that Mr. Newsome learned how to alter kilts in this way from Bob Martin, who is known worldwide for being a (the?) leading authority on the kilt. So let's not look down on anyone because they're not a professor, ok?

**Barb T** · 18th January 12, 07:35 AM

For 3 inches, I wouldn't bother to re-build the kilt. You can move the apron edge buckles and the underapron strap and easily have a kilt that fits and looks fine. I once moved buckles and straps 10.5" on a kilt, and it was remarkably un-obvious (and, yes, the person was a large person to begin with). Here's the post that describes it, with pics:

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...oo-much-59745/

**denmcdough** · 18th January 12, 09:18 AM

d I'd like to add again that Mr. Newsome learned how to alter kilts in this way from Bob Martin, who is known worldwide for being a (the?) leading authority on the kilt. So let's not look down on anyone because they're not a professor, ok?

Sorry, but you have the wrong impression. I was not looking down on anyone.

**Ryan Ross** · 18th January 12, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by denmcdough

Sorry, but you have the wrong impression. I was not looking down on anyone.

That was my mistake, good sir, and you have my apologies for it.

**Nylo** · 18th January 12, 03:17 PM

I like your "proven" idea.

You mentioned "drawing a sketch," or was this the pic you posted? If not I would like to see it.

Thanks,
Nylo

Originally Posted by Barb T.

For 3 inches, I wouldn't bother to re-build the kilt. You can move the apron edge buckles and the underapron strap and easily have a kilt that fits and looks fine. I once moved buckles and straps 10.5" on a kilt, and it was remarkably un-obvious (and, yes, the person was a large person to begin with). Here's the post that describes it, with pics:

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...oo-much-59745/

**Barb T** · 19th January 12, 04:12 AM

Originally Posted by Nylo

You mentioned "drawing a sketch," or was this the pic you posted? If not I would like to see it.

I never did draw a sketch, because no one asked me to in the older post. Basically, you move the buckles toward the center back of the kilt and the underapron strap toward the center of the underapron an equal amount. I'm in Egypt at the moment and can't do anything but describe this.

**Nylo** · 19th January 12, 10:50 AM

Ive inclosed a snap of, "drawing a sketch." If there isn't one no problem. I myself know nothing about tailoring, but my girl friend does but isn't familiar with kilts. I'm just trying to build enough information for her to do this.

Thank you,
Nylo

ps. I want to go to Egypt!