Sgian Dhub question

[bear]

Being ethnocentric means you do not understand that some cultures have fundamental differences from your own and you think that only the customs/traditions/values of your culture are correct. If you can't understand that sometimes t isn't right and wrong, it is just different, then you are ethnocentric. If you don't even realize that other places have different laws, then that is extremetly ethnocentric.

What makes a sgian dubh a weapon? Yes, sometimes sgian dubhs were used as a last resort weapon, but the sgian dubh was originally made for and more commonly used as an eating utensil. Why does calling it a tool take away it's historical significance and herritage? As for making it unnecessary as an accessory, I would argue that it's being a tool is what makes it necessary as an accessory.

This thread wasn't about some places being allowed to carry knives and some not. This thread was asking if anyone carries a sgian dubh in any but formal occasions. Some people started saying that there is no reason for one (there are a million reasons to carry a knife at all times), or that it is illegal to carry one (maybe in some of your areas, but not everywhere) or that people who don't agree with a certain way of thinking shouldn't wear them (the most rediculous thing I have heard).

I've never read anything about sgian dubhs being eating utensils. Can you cite a source?

As for ethnocentric, in that use of the word, I am the least ethnocentric person you may ever meet and Vancouver may be the hardest place in the world to be ethnocentric.

[bear]

"Do you know what ethnocentric means? ...I think you must have meant something else."

Check with your local semanticist, Alaskan did use the word correctly, perhaps he was misunderstood; or it is a regional difference not unlike some people misspelling color as colour or center as centre

The point that I was trying to make(that also seems to have been missed):The fact remains, that the object is not the weapon; the weapon is between ones ears. If society wants to protect itself from "weapons" we need to make a clean sweep. Many have been trained to take people out with a #2 pencil...where does it end!

At the risk of being ethnocentric, colour and centre are the way those words are spelled in most places in the world that speak English. They are not misspelled and it is ethnocentric to say so.

[Andrew]

Hey Bear! I was just wondering how hard it has been to type all these lenghtly posts with one finger? I ask this because I know you were probably sitting at your computer clutching your sqian dubh drawn from its sheath in one hands!

[Alaskan Celt]

"At the risk of being ethnocentric, colour and centre are the way those words are spelled in most places in the world that speak English. They are not misspelled and it is ethnocentric to say so."

I knew if I was patient you would eventually catch on...congratulations Bear, lesson is over.

[Doc Hudson]

Gentlemen!!

I didn't start this thread to start an arguement!

I was simply interested to know if anyone openly carried a black knife on a regular basis.

To me, a knife is for cutting envelopes, triming items, cutting fruit and other food. If I need a weapon, first resort will be my cane, main weaponry will be either a .357 Magnum or .44 SPL revolver. (That won't change when I wear a kilt.) A sgian duhb would truly be a weapon of last resort!

I'm of the opinion that every edged weapon was rendered obsolecent the day Colonel Colt patented his revolver.

[Andrew]

Gentlemen!!

I didn't start this thread to start an arguement!

Ya but it sure has been fun to read!

[Graham]

On a similar topic, I plan to attend a Mediaeval Ball (sp) this weekend, the only rule they made was "no real weapons".

I don't think I'll wear a SD

[Alaskan]

I've never read anything about sgian dubhs being eating utensils. Can you cite a source?

It is hard to read anything about the history of the sgian dubh without reading that it was a skinning knife or an eating utensil.

How's this?
http://www.geocities.com/~sconemac/feature.html

Or this?
http://www.scottishtartans.org/blackknife.html

Or this site that says the utility knife became a concealed weapon due to the ban on arms?
http://www.highlandwear.org/sgian.htm

[bear]

"At the risk of being ethnocentric, colour and centre are the way those words are spelled in most places in the world that speak English. They are not misspelled and it is ethnocentric to say so."

I knew if I was patient you would eventually catch on...congratulations Bear, lesson is over.

Lesson?
Sorry, I don't know you well enough to know when you're being deliberately obtuse.

[bear]

I've never read anything about sgian dubhs being eating utensils. Can you cite a source?

It is hard to read anything about the history of the sgian dubh without reading that it was a skinning knife or an eating utensil.

How's this?
http://www.geocities.com/~sconemac/feature.html

Or this?
http://www.scottishtartans.org/blackknife.html

Or this site that says the utility knife became a concealed weapon due to the ban on arms?
http://www.highlandwear.org/sgian.htm

Those sources read like the 6 O:Clock News. Theories suggest, some say, it is believed, it is possible, experts disagree ... yaaaawn

Here's my first post revised, just to get out of this pointless argument about something that really doesn't matter.
If I'm going to wear my sgian dhub for everyday use, I'll keep it concealed.
The traditional way is the common sense approach in this instance. I put it in my sock for formal occasions but keep it in easy reach otherwise.
Unless frisked, there's no way anyone should know I have it.
Anyone who has a problem with that can come and whisper it in my ear.