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20th February 12, 08:26 AM
#241
Re: Tyger's New Ryan Ross Bonnet
 Originally Posted by Ryan Ross
That's how we roll, here. Floating relevance, you might call it.
Ehem, but yes... 4000 pounds of naval bronze. Hey, you could start making hoplons, and stuff like that! That'd kick some serious fanny. 
Need to ask Jeff about the floating relevance, see what he thinks.
Tough rascals, these:

Last edited by tyger; 20th February 12 at 08:28 AM.
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20th February 12, 08:32 AM
#242
Re: Tyger's New Ryan Ross Bonnet
Despite its name and relevance, naval bronze is not going to float. Especially 2 tons of it.
I'll ask Bob about some smaller supply of it. He is in the metal recycling business (i.e. he buys scrap) and is often down at the navy yards here in San Diego, picking up materials. Shipping to the Forge could be prohibitive but who knows? I could get it as far as Nashville, disguised as my luggage on Southwest. . .
Proudly Duncan [maternal], MacDonald and MacDaniel [paternal].
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20th February 12, 08:43 AM
#243
Re: Tyger's New Ryan Ross Bonnet
Very tough rascals, I hear. Greek heavy infantry were quite the force to be reckoned with, and I think a lot of that was the quality of their bronze armor and weapons: between a Corinthian style helm w/extra thick face plate, greaves that came over the knee, and a round shield a yard across, they were a veritable wall of metal, each man carrying a stout spear (sometimes even a pike) and a shortsword for when the enimy got too close for the spear to be effective.
They had a great system going!
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20th February 12, 08:55 AM
#244
Re: Tyger's New Ryan Ross Bonnet
 Originally Posted by Ryan Ross
Very tough rascals, I hear. Greek heavy infantry were quite the force to be reckoned with, and I think a lot of that was the quality of their bronze armor and weapons: between a Corinthian style helm w/extra thick face plate, greaves that came over the knee, and a round shield a yard across, they were a veritable wall of metal, each man carrying a stout spear (sometimes even a pike) and a shortsword for when the enimy got too close for the spear to be effective.
They had a great system going!
Yeah, but they had room for improvement. Did you see that dood? He is wearing sandals!
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20th February 12, 08:57 AM
#245
Re: Tyger's New Ryan Ross Bonnet
 Originally Posted by tyger
Yeah, but they had room for improvement. Did you see that dood? He is wearing sandals!
You make a fine point there... I've often wondered why they left the feet open like that, especially when it would have been pretty easy to make a hinged pice that could be worn right over top of their sandals. Guess we may never know...
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20th February 12, 08:58 AM
#246
Re: Tyger's New Ryan Ross Bonnet
 Originally Posted by sydnie7
Despite its name and relevance, naval bronze is not going to float. Especially 2 tons of it.
I'll ask Bob about some smaller supply of it. He is in the metal recycling business (i.e. he buys scrap) and is often down at the navy yards here in San Diego, picking up materials. Shipping to the Forge could be prohibitive but who knows? I could get it as far as Nashville, disguised as my luggage on Southwest. . .
No, it will not float!
Thank you for the offer to see about that bronze. I have my eye on some at the recycle plant too, but determining the alloy is nigh impossible. You can guess, but almost never know. And that sticks in my craw because I can't say "Naval Bronze" if I cannot guarantee that it is. Scrupulous, but hey........
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20th February 12, 09:35 AM
#247
Re: Tyger's New Ryan Ross Bonnet
Not to go off topic here, but I know that a lot of people who are following this topic are into art and craft.
And a lot of people know that the game of golf started in Scotland, where golf balls were stuffed with goose feathers.
Well, of course, just about everybody has cut into a golf ball, out of curiosity. Kids always have heard that the ball will 'explode' if you cut into it, so........you sneak off and cut into one and see if it explodes on you.
I am working on trying to make something happen, and I needed some golf ball hide to work with. I sliced off a part of the golf ball, and what I found was a lot different from the one I cut up some time between 1960 and 1962.
Also, note the cool dodecahedral pattern. Very whacky. This ball also had an equator (not visible in this photo).
Last edited by tyger; 20th February 12 at 09:38 AM.
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20th February 12, 09:37 AM
#248
Re: Tyger's New Ryan Ross Bonnet
 Originally Posted by tyger
No, it will not float!
Thank you for the offer to see about that bronze. I have my eye on some at the recycle plant too, but determining the alloy is nigh impossible. You can guess, but almost never know. And that sticks in my craw because I can't say "Naval Bronze" if I cannot guarantee that it is. Scrupulous, but hey........
Surely there must be some kind of test you can do at home... isn't there?
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20th February 12, 09:39 AM
#249
Re: Tyger's New Ryan Ross Bonnet
What were they like in '62?
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20th February 12, 09:39 AM
#250
Re: Tyger's New Ryan Ross Bonnet
 Originally Posted by Ryan Ross
Surely there must be some kind of test you can do at home... isn't there? 
I don't know. I am a veterinarian, not a metallurgist. Now I gotta' go look it up. How about the Brown Test?
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