Rob Roy movie tartan

[Dale Seago]

A teaser pic of a kilt I shipped out today.

*drool*

Pretty good look at the sett and colors, also from the movie:

http://uk.imdb.com/media/rm78232320/tt0114287

[Sir William]

Since I already have a tank in this tartan, I'm not overly jealous (though I'll admit that I'm becoming quite partial to box pleats).

[mookien]

Yes, this tartan is recorded with the Scottish Tartans Authority as No. 7026, "Rob Roy (Film)" tartan.

The notes say:

Designed and woven for the film Rob Roy by Gordon Covell of The Islay Woollen Mill. ...

Matt: Why weren't those interesting/useful notes carried over into the SRT notes? There it simply says, "This tartan was recorded prior to the launch of The Scottish Register of Tartans."

Were notes lost in some mass transfer of data from one registry to the other?

John

[Donnachaidh Drumair]

Very nice understated elegance to it.

[M. A. C. Newsome]

Matt: Why weren't those interesting/useful notes carried over into the SRT notes? There it simply says, "This tartan was recorded prior to the launch of The Scottish Register of Tartans."

Were notes lost in some mass transfer of data from one registry to the other?

John

Good question. I have no idea, but you could ask the STR.

I always go to the STA International Tartan Index first when I need info on a tartan.

[mookien]

Good question. I have no idea, but you could ask the STR.

I always go to the STA International Tartan Index first when I need info on a tartan.

I just sent the SRT a query. I'll post the response or, at least, the thrust of it, though it may be a few days.

It would appear in general that the SRT is a work in progress. On their "Guidance" web page is the general statement, ...

"Where tartans have been incorporated from existing registers
The National Records of Scotland has worked with the Scottish Tartans Authority and the Scottish Tartans World Register to amalgamate their former databases into a single dataset for the Register.

It should be noted that the criteria for registration applied by these two individual organisations differed from each other and also from those applied by the official Register. Not all tartans recognised by one organisation were recognised by the other and vice versa. Notes or background information made available for pre-existing tartans may derive from a variety of external sources. Every effort is being made to check and validate this information, however it is acknowledged that inaccuracies or lack of clarity may still exist in some of the records. The National Records of Scotland will continue to work with its tartan industry partners over the coming years to improve this information."

[Paul Henry]

Good question. I have no idea, but you could ask the STR.

I always go to the STA International Tartan Index first when I need info on a tartan.

Whichever register you use there are always missing tartans, for example my own, despite sending the details to Brian Wilton, and indeed a sample of the tartan, doesn't appear to be on the STA listing.

I think it's worth checking both lists, just in case!

[Dale Seago]

I seem to recall that this tartan only comes in 13 oz. Is that correct, Matt?

The kilt pictured is made from a 5-yard double-width plaid I bought years ago and have never used even once before sending it to Matt; there also is a bias-cut waistcoat in the works.

I got it through TartanWeb; at that time, the fabric was being described on their site as a 17- or 18-ounce tweed.

It may NOW only be available in 13-oz weight, as I notice that Islay Woolen Mill currently has the pattern available as a scarf. But the fabric of this kilt is pretty hefty stuff.

[M. A. C. Newsome]

Whichever register you use there are always missing tartans, for example my own, despite sending the details to Brian Wilton, and indeed a sample of the tartan, doesn't appear to be on the STA listing.

I think it's worth checking both lists, just in case!

Paul,

Just to point out that there is a distinction between recording the tartan in the ITI and the same tartan actually appearing on the STA's web site. I'm sure that if you have sent the details in to the STA, including a woven sample, that Brian Wilton would have entered it into the official ITI. A quick email to him would confirm that.

However, getting the tartan included on the STA web site is an additional process, and I know the STA has numerous upgrades for the web site in the works - one of which would be the ability to add new tartans to the online version of the ITI much quicker!

[Paul Henry]

Paul,

Just to point out that there is a distinction between recording the tartan in the ITI and the same tartan actually appearing on the STA's web site. I'm sure that if you have sent the details in to the STA, including a woven sample, that Brian Wilton would have entered it into the official ITI. A quick email to him would confirm that.

However, getting the tartan included on the STA web site is an additional process, and I know the STA has numerous upgrades for the web site in the works - one of which would be the ability to add new tartans to the online version of the ITI much quicker!

the point I was making that it is still a good thing to check on both registers, I'm not a governor of the STA, and few here have access to the entire index, so there is not an easy way to check what is on the list. I imagine you actually mean delay rather than distinction, as Brian did email to tell it had been recorded on the STA database.
The STR was created to be a single index of tartans, and in time I'm sure it will be , but it will take some time, especially as the STA appears to be less than keen on it.