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14th March 12, 04:02 PM
#51
Re: TV version of Braveheart?
 Originally Posted by Ryan Ross
I did, however, suggest that if you wished to learn more about Scottish history, you might want to study up on it a bit.
Thanks for the generic advice, but I've gotten by so far without any problems.
I know you said you had knowledge of UK secondary school history, but seeing that each country have a number of different boards, I find it hard to believe you are aware of all the curriculum.
So seeing you have no idea what I learned at school, I suggest you consider this before ridiculing our education system.
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14th March 12, 04:18 PM
#52
Re: TV version of Braveheart?
Anyway, I think the shows accuracy will depend on the type of audience it is going for.
If it is solely for Scotland, then it's more likely to be a lower budget affair, which may lend towards a more historical drama.
But if they're aiming to sell the show worldwide, I feel they will loosely base it around Wallace's life and not concentrate too much on the facts, which the majority of people won't know anyway.
As far as I'm aware, most of the STV shows aren't sold to many counties outside the UK. Most fail to get outside Scotland. Even their most successful show, Taggart, didn't reach North American (as far as I know), although it was bought in Australia and New Zealand.
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14th March 12, 04:36 PM
#53
Re: TV version of Braveheart?
I'll be interested in seeing it, even for just entertainment.
offtopic: Anyone read Jack Whyte's The Forest Laird? Great author and usually historically spot on about the stories. Supposed to be about Wallace's early life.
He'll be writing books about Douglas and Bruce pretty soon.
By the way, they're novels, not historical documents.
Gillmore of Clan Morrison
"Long Live the Long Shirts!"- Ryan Ross
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14th March 12, 04:38 PM
#54
Re: TV version of Braveheart?
 Originally Posted by Brock63
I think there is a difference between accuracy and authenticity. The Roman society is known to have been very violent, full of sexual decadence from the ruling elites down to the peasants. We hear cries of wanting historical accuracy or authenticity in our shows...but only if it fits within our accepted morals and beliefs. While the only really factual part that can be proven is there appears to have been a slave revolt that brought down 6 Army legions by a fella the Romans called Spartacus. The remaining filler does not make it any less "authentic" though when we have ample information that shows the downfall of society, what were accepted norms, (i.e., Caligula was both crazy and a sexually perversive deviant and it was reflected in his courts and admirers in their action to be like him).
I would argue that whether you agree with the contents or not....the show is on a channel that requires you to ask for access (at least on Dish Network)...and does a fair attempt to compromise a balance between authenticity and accuracy in a historical context. Another similar is the series Rome.
I surmise that many people today would not like the historically authentic revelation of their favorite figures in our past! Be careful what you ask for when it comes to history being presented with both accuracy and authenticity. The computer graphics are due to the hugely successful movie 300...the stop action vintage patina of the film shots....and enhanced blood spatter are all part of that. In my opinion just a 50 year evolution from seeing Batman and Robin have call-outs that said BOOM POW CRUNCH when we watched them in our youth...
Just a thought....
#Threadjack
I <3 spartacus! This show has the best earrings on cable and a great soundtrack.
Side note I learned in a college costume history class: Roman prostitutes would have letters affixed (or tooled out, I forgot) on the bottom of soles of their sandals, so when they would walk through the sand, they'd leave footprints that said "follow me".
Sucha modest and chaste society.
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14th March 12, 04:58 PM
#55
Re: TV version of Braveheart?
I don't know what is wrong with all you hooligans, I love braveheart a.k.a MadMax Scotish Style...
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14th March 12, 06:20 PM
#56
Re: TV version of Braveheart?
 Originally Posted by Burly Brute
I don't know what is wrong with all you hooligans, I love braveheart a.k.a MadMax Scotish Style...
Nominated for 10 Academy awards; won five including Best Picture and Best Director (MG).
I wonder how many attended Highland Games because of it? How many would purchase a kilt because of it?
Those tasteless plebeians! 
I've lost count how many times I watched it. Faults and all, it's a great flick!
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14th March 12, 06:25 PM
#57
Re: TV version of Braveheart?
 Originally Posted by Mael Coluim
Nominated for 10 Academy awards; won five including Best Picture and Best Director (MG).
I wonder how many attended Highland Games because of it? How many would purchase a kilt because of it?
Those tasteless plebeians!
I've lost count how many times I watched it. Faults and all, it's a great flick!
That is true, and I think the movie definitely has great scenes in it. It's been a while since I've see it, but I'm tempted to have another look at it.
It's also worth mentioning the amount of tourism it brought to Scotland. The so called 'Braveheart effect' brought a lot of money to the economy here, and still does so.
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15th March 12, 02:27 AM
#58
Re: TV version of Braveheart?
If this is the same series, it's tentatively called "Wallace". I read an article earlier in the week that the director stated Gerard Butler has signed on for the role of William Wallace. Could be interesting.
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15th March 12, 03:30 AM
#59
Re: TV version of Braveheart?
Interested to see how this pans out.
On a side note (well, people already mentioned it...) the William Wallace statue...
Kyle, I thought you must be exaggerating about your students, but that thing is indeed hideous! I just did a quick google search (somehow I've never seen it!). On the other hand, the statue of the Bruce there at Stirling is beautiful at least (the historical accuracy is not within my expertise to judge).
Cheers!
Michael
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15th March 12, 04:45 AM
#60
Re: TV version of Braveheart?
The latter half of Forum Rule 3 means I am not available to say how I truly feel about the "movie" Braveheart.
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