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18th April 12, 01:31 PM
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how do I put on a fly plaid?
I just got a fly plaid, from still water kilts very good store for me. How do I put it on? I know I need a pin for it, but how far on my shoulder, up, down, left, right? height in the back? do I fold it before putting it on or just throw it on my shoulder and say, "that looks ok"?
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18th April 12, 01:53 PM
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First of all there are generally felt to be very few instances when a fly plaid is needed or considered appropriate-----your wedding, high end black tie events or potentially even more formal situations, like being received by the queen. So although many have fly plaids, outside of Scotland there are not really a whole lot of need for them, so most times you see them in what many would consider "inappropriate" uses and situations.
If you decide you desire to wear one, most have a pleated segment about 8-10 inches in from one corner. Pull that corner through the left epaulet of your PC or more formal jacket from back to front so the pleated part is centered under the epaulet and the small corner hangs down toward your left breast pocket. Then attach your plaid brooch to that corner below your left epaulet. I do not pin the plaid to my jacket fabric , but rather use it as a counterweight to the fly plaid weight hanging down your left back. Some do pin it through the jacket fabric but run the risk of jacket front damage should the plaid be inadvertently yanked strongly. Still others will put the plaid brooch on the epaulet and pin through the epaulet and the plaid.
Others should chime in with further info and questions and comments.
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18th April 12, 02:25 PM
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This is about where I wear it.
I hate the thought of sticking a pin through my jackets so I have a heavy brooch and I wear it a little lower on my shoulder than some choose to do,I find that also when I wear it alittle lower it tends not to pull on my jacket as much.That said if you don't pin it to your jacket it will slide around through the night and you'll have to fiddle with it from time to time.If you want to pin it to stay in place I would use safety pins(the smallest that will do the job)and pin it on the back side under or near the brooch, so the pins are hidden under the plaid.
I hope this helps,others know more than I about such things.
Regards
Andy
Last edited by cable scot; 18th April 12 at 02:28 PM.
KILTED LABOWSKI
"I imagine a place of brotherhood and peace, a world without war. Then I imagine attacking that place because they would never expect it.
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19th April 12, 11:25 AM
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Here is my contribution...
Closer view, also not pinned to jacket, just weighted.
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19th April 12, 12:54 PM
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Look'n sharp Glen,love the blue PC w/ the white vest n' tie, it goes well w/ your trews IMHO. Was this pic for an event or for an example?
Regards Andy
KILTED LABOWSKI
"I imagine a place of brotherhood and peace, a world without war. Then I imagine attacking that place because they would never expect it.
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19th April 12, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cable scot
Look'n sharp Glen,love the blue PC w/ the white vest n' tie, it goes well w/ your trews IMHO. Was this pic for an event or for an example?
Regards Andy
Oh, no, from an event last June. Others in highland white tie, doublets mainly, but I thought the PC would work...
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19th April 12, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Kilt-alope
I just got a fly plaid, from still water kilts very good store for me. How do I put it on? I know I need a pin for it, but how far on my shoulder, up, down, left, right? height in the back? do I fold it before putting it on or just throw it on my shoulder and say, "that looks ok"?
Having done this a couple of times and I think, fallen into all the traps, I can say that there are a couple of considerations.
- Will you be standing around, looking good, or will you be moving around and standing and sitting?
- Will you be wearing miniature medals.
The first thing that needs to be said is that although it is possible to do yourself, you really need a second person to do the pinning. With the best will in the world, you can't be in the jacket and round the back at the same time.
So slide the pre-folded (or stitched) end through your left epaulette from the back.
First decision - How far down should this end hang down? Anywhere from a couple of inches to a foot and a half - the choice is yours. (If you are going to be wearing miniature medals (which will be on your lapel), put them on now. See how the end interacts with them.
Second decision - Where to put your broach? It does not have to be on top of your shoulder (as in the old days). If it is of high quality, you might want to wear it lower, so people can see it.
You, or second person holds the weight of the plaid while the other pins in the broach. Second person, puts in a safety pin (1") into your jacket at the height of the broach. The safety end of the pin goes over the pin of the broach. So the safety pin pins the jacket to the broach and not the fly plaid.
That's the first pin.
The second one is at the top of your shoulder under the plaid and epaulette. So pinning the plaid to the jacket. Lift the plaid up slightly (1/4 to 1/2 inch). Takes any pressure and pull off the front of the jacket.
Next, you stand up straight while the second person arranges the plaid.
Third decision - Straight down to cover left buttock of spread out more. The more it spreads, the more kilt it is going to hide.
Three more safety pins (or maybe four or five). Second person lifts up the weight of the plaid, about an inch and pins it into a seam, again and again and again.
The danger with pins, is not using enough of them. You are trying to fix the weight of the plaid to the jacket so they become one garment, not hang the weight from it. Remember, it is a flyplaid - not Batman's cape.
So now the only free weight is from the waist downwards. If you don't pin at the waist the weight of the plaid will try to constantly pull it backwards off your shoulder - taking the jacket with it.
Once you are totally happy with everything the jacket can be taken off and put on a hanger.
Either a fly plaid can be a high-end accessory that doesn't give you a care in the world or it can ruin an evening, by making you feel uncomfortable.
Regards
Chas
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19th April 12, 08:38 PM
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Glen
The PC so works
Chas
Thank you for your post.That was awesome to read,no one suggested I pin the back of the plaid as well,super smart.
Hat doffed
Andy
KILTED LABOWSKI
"I imagine a place of brotherhood and peace, a world without war. Then I imagine attacking that place because they would never expect it.
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19th April 12, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ForresterModern
First of all there are generally felt to be very few instances when a fly plaid is needed or considered appropriate-----your wedding, high end black tie events or potentially even more formal situations, like being received by the queen. So although many have fly plaids, outside of Scotland there are not really a whole lot of need for them, so most times you see them in what many would consider "inappropriate" uses and situations.
If you decide you desire to wear one, most have a pleated segment about 8-10 inches in from one corner. Pull that corner through the left epaulet of your PC or more formal jacket from back to front so the pleated part is centered under the epaulet and the small corner hangs down toward your left breast pocket. Then attach your plaid brooch to that corner below your left epaulet. I do not pin the plaid to my jacket fabric , but rather use it as a counterweight to the fly plaid weight hanging down your left back. Some do pin it through the jacket fabric but run the risk of jacket front damage should the plaid be inadvertently yanked strongly. Still others will put the plaid brooch on the epaulet and pin through the epaulet and the plaid.
Others should chime in with further info and questions and comments.
Spot on Jeff , regarding when and how to wear a fly plaid .
Although , I'm thinking maybe I should start wearing mine more often , just in case the Queen shows up .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7prSn...eature=related
Mike Montgomery
Clan Montgomery Society , International
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25th April 12, 09:26 PM
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