Thanks. I always find the different practices, albeit few, in SCDing throughout the world to be interesting. In my neck of the woods the instructors frown on this style of turning, regardless of speed of the turn. They similarly frown on the "upright" forearm turn. They consider the elbow hold to be quite dangerous to the dancers. So, needless to say, we don't use them. I personally find both uncomfortable and and a hinderance to my phrasing (timeing). But that may be just because of not being used to the methods.