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    So I had a come to Jesus meeting with my boss today.

    We have a followup on Monday afternoon, my day off.

    I will be appearing in support of one of my subordinates. She is female, nearly elderly, somewhat infirm, and of African-American descent.

    As a Registered Nurse with a BA in anthropology I intend, if I get the opportunity, to gloss over the fact that I know a bit more about femaleness than the average dude (while kilted) and move directly to her defense. This is a good employee, she is being wronged, and she has chosen to not make any trouble rather than stand up for herself. I am not having it.

    I need to look as good as I can without going over the top.

    So business professional meeting inside the hospital with two of my colleagues and my supervisor, all RN's, inside the hospital during business hours. My colleagues will be in surgical scrubs. My supervisor will be in something between business casual and business corporate. I have read the corporate dress code very carefully, it does say 'slacks for men' but it does also say 'generally' and it also says the code is not all inclusive.

    I can carry this off.

    My best current plan is collared shirt with "a" necktie, but no jacket. Forecast is +50F for Monday, freaking hot hot hot, way to hot for a blazer. And probably overkill too.


    My question really is can I get to level four, five or six without a jacket? Maybe if I pull my grandpa's retirement gold watch out of the safe and shine up my shoes and so on? Alternatively, does smart day wear really require a jacket of some kind? In this heat? Maybe just a waistcoat?

    The second choice would be to not shave at all this weekend, block in a short beard, and wear my biggest earring with workboots, scrunched hiking socks, a polo type shirt and a fedora. I know I can do that and it wouldn't be "too much" locally except for Jock Scot and MacMillan of Rathdowne and etcetera suffering apoplexy.

    Fancy sporran, mid grade or homemade?

    Bright red flashes or ancient blue?

    No claymore.

    Thanks,
    AKScott

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    I'm not exactly clear on what the meeting and all is about, but good luck.

    It's the part about the 50 F heat being too much for a jacket that I can't get my mind around… I've had to wear a suit in 115 degree summer heat, while waiting at bus stops half a day, back when I worked in downtown Phoenix. I'm sure the Southerners and Midwesterners have it worse with their 100 degree/ percent humidity.
    Guess you're just used to what you're used to.
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    Good on ya for standing up for your people! But I'm with Bug on this. I can't offer any advice without knowing what exactly is going on, or the outlook on your employer as far as dress goes. Shined shoes are never a bad thing. The watch you are wearing can be good or bad, depending on the situation.

    Just not sure what is going on here.

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    Scott tartan of course. Nothing can trump that!
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    I can't offer any thoughts... I have no idea what a Come To Jesus meeting is, or what it has to do with defending your coworker. Maybe some clarification on that point would help.
    "Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.

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    well... If your mate's neck is on the line and the meeting is about her getting un-wronged; and it's the wrongers you're meeting with. I'd wear smart (but casual - in view of the weather) trouseriness and not let MY appearance distract. I think if you put a Kilt on it will become the centre of attention and perhaps reduce your chances of a successful outcome in the face of their prejudice. If they are wronging this lady without a care they'll certainly hold some contempt about a man in a "skirt" (as they would no doubt interpret it). Tread careful AK, for your friend's sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Bloke View Post
    well... If your mate's neck is on the line and the meeting is about her getting un-wronged; and it's the wrongers you're meeting with. I'd wear smart (but casual - in view of the weather) trouseriness and not let MY appearance distract. I think if you put a Kilt on it will become the centre of attention and perhaps reduce your chances of a successful outcome in the face of their prejudice. If they are wronging this lady without a care they'll certainly hold some contempt about a man in a "skirt" (as they would no doubt interpret it). Tread careful AK, for your friend's sake.
    AKScott ,

    You may want to re-examine your thoughts . English Bloke has it right .

    If you really want to help this person , don't go in with an " in your face " approach . Kilted will have little efect on a situation like this , in fact , it may come across as drama which will add to the negative side , not because of the kilt but because you are using the kilt to add drama to the situation .

    I can very much apperciate your desire to help a fellow employee / subordinate , but your best bet is to present real information and facts to help this person , not showmanship .

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    So I had a come to Jesus meeting with my boss today.
    What is a "come to Jesus meeting?

    Regards

    Chas

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    I would wear a standard business suit. Trying to impress through sartorial elegance will, in a situation like this, backfire. Badly. If you truly do want to help your co-worker, then fudging the dress code will not assist you in any way. More, the kilt will distract, and will be seen as an attempt to deflect from your co-worker. Do everyone a favor, and dress in current fashion. Better yet, dress in the same mode as the boss generally does. Your appearance needs to be left out of the equation.

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    I'm not at all clear on the circumstances but unless you typically wear a kilt to work I'd recommend wearing pants. Good luck.

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