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    ...kilted to medieval festival

    Hi Kiltologists,

    yesterday there was a famous medieval festival near my home town and so I decided to wear my PV Scottish National kilt with Argyle top hoses for the visit. I know, that historically it's not soooo correct, but for me it seems to be a good opportunity to go out kilted.

    He's a picture (without medieval bonnet and swordsman jacket because of the temperature). Pictures were taken in front of my house before departing.



    under http://www.spectaculum-oberwesel.de/...ressionen.html you can find some pictures of the event. "ZURUECK" means "BACK" and "WEITER" means "NEXT"

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    Ausgezeichnet! I believe that as long as you're not trying to show yourself as a historical representation, fashion sense and personal preference dictates what you wear. As many have written in these fora, just treat the kilt as you would a pair of pants.
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    I don't know that I would agree with the above statement. I think in terms of general clothing wear, then yes, it is true enough. But if you are attending a medieval themed event then it makes sense to either a) dress as best one can in medieval style clothing, so as to fit in with the spirit of the event, or b) wear regular street clothes and attend as a spectator (assuming it is an event open to the general public, and not one requiring participants to be in costume).

    I think dressing in a style that is obviously not ordinary street wear, yet is not in any way in keeping with the stated theme of the event, can not only confuse other attendees but also is not very respectful of the spirit of the event, or those who organized it.

    It would be a bit like me attending a local Civil War reenactment, but dressing as a Maori warrior because I wanted an excuse to wear my face paints, or dressing a Viking, because the tunics are just so comfortable. Neither would be in keeping with the spirit of the event.

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    Matt,
    How would you suggest that those of us to whom the kilt is regular street clothes deal with the situation? I have noticed that at such events, even wearing an obviously modern contemporary kilt and something as non-medieval as a Nike polo shirt, people assume I am in "garb".

    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    I don't know that I would agree with the above statement. I think in terms of general clothing wear, then yes, it is true enough. But if you are attending a medieval themed event then it makes sense to either a) dress as best one can in medieval style clothing, so as to fit in with the spirit of the event, or b) wear regular street clothes and attend as a spectator (assuming it is an event open to the general public, and not one requiring participants to be in costume).

    I think dressing in a style that is obviously not ordinary street wear, yet is not in any way in keeping with the stated theme of the event, can not only confuse other attendees but also is not very respectful of the spirit of the event, or those who organized it.

    It would be a bit like me attending a local Civil War reenactment, but dressing as a Maori warrior because I wanted an excuse to wear my face paints, or dressing a Viking, because the tunics are just so comfortable. Neither would be in keeping with the spirit of the event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Withnell View Post
    Matt,
    How would you suggest that those of us to whom the kilt is regular street clothes deal with the situation? I have noticed that at such events, even wearing an obviously modern contemporary kilt and something as non-medieval as a Nike polo shirt, people assume I am in "garb".
    I think that if you attend as a spectator in an obviously modern kilt, with modern shirt & shoes, etc., you are doing no wrong and not trying to present yourself as a participant. Only a complete idiot would view your modern get-up as a medieval costume!
    The guys that bother me are the ones who try to dress up a modern kilt with what they consider historic elements, and pass themselves off as being in "period" garb for such an event....
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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    I don't know that I would agree with the above statement. I think in terms of general clothing wear, then yes, it is true enough. But if you are attending a medieval themed event then it makes sense to either a) dress as best one can in medieval style clothing, so as to fit in with the spirit of the event, or b) wear regular street clothes and attend as a spectator (assuming it is an event open to the general public, and not one requiring participants to be in costume).

    I think dressing in a style that is obviously not ordinary street wear, yet is not in any way in keeping with the stated theme of the event, can not only confuse other attendees but also is not very respectful of the spirit of the event, or those who organized it.

    It would be a bit like me attending a local Civil War reenactment, but dressing as a Maori warrior because I wanted an excuse to wear my face paints, or dressing a Viking, because the tunics are just so comfortable. Neither would be in keeping with the spirit of the event.
    Based on the few festivals of this type that I have attended, and those that friends have described, they are held purely to entertain (with attention to making a buck). They definitely are not staged as historical reenactments, so lighten up!

    From what I've seen, some people dress to hit the theme, and others do wear some really strange things, but nobody really cares. It is however acceptable to get a laugh at the way some people dress; that is supposedly part of the fun. Simply put, the fashion police do not attend these festivals. I do not really buy into these festivals, but I have gone to a few for the music. Maybe next time I'll wear a kilt (with flip flops if it's raining)!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle1 View Post
    Based on the few festivals of this type that I have attended, and those that friends have described, they are held purely to entertain (with attention to making a buck). They definitely are not staged as historical reenactments, so lighten up!

    From what I've seen, some people dress to hit the theme, and others do wear some really strange things, but nobody really cares. It is however acceptable to get a laugh at the way some people dress; that is supposedly part of the fun. Simply put, the fashion police do not attend these festivals. I do not really buy into these festivals, but I have gone to a few for the music. Maybe next time I'll wear a kilt (with flip flops if it's raining)!
    I agree with Lyle here. The entertainment value is the draw for many folks. Some don't dress up at all. Some go 'all-in' and spring the cash for a 100% accurate getup. Many want to participate but only have one or two things, so they show up in all manner of combinations. While not exactly the same as a medieval festival, think about the last highland games you attended: was everyone properly attired in highland dress? I know that the largest games around here (Enumclaw) draw all manner of attendees in all manner of dress. I once saw a guy rocking an awesome horsehair sporran with his shorts, t-shirt, and sandals. That was his only 'highland accessory' and he was wearing it quite wrong, but proudly!

    In addition to the shorts and t-shirt crowd, and the hundreds of folks who have no idea how to properly wear a kilt, you'll also see:

    Belly dancers
    Pirates
    Wizards
    Warriors
    Roman legionnaires in full armor

    I believe that ren-fairs and medieval fests have a not-too-different vibe: I'm sure they draw all manner of attendees. While showing up kilted in a puffy shirt might not be historically accurate, it IS fun! Maybe not as fun as seeing Matt in Maori tattoos, but still fun.
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    Good link, Marcus. Some really good pictures there.

    Thanks

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    Personally I think you look great! I hope you had a blast.

    Those pictures are very cool; it looks much more elaborate and interesting than the Ren faires we have stateside. The food looks wonderful.
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    For a long time the events in Europe have been more like historical demos without much patron interaction. Reading and looking at the photos on the website it looks like they are coming around to the renfaire model a little bit, more fun for everyone!
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