Anderson 1936 catalogue

**CMcG** · 12th July 12, 07:22 AM

Thanks, OC Richard!

It's nice to see a few pictures of men wearing evening ghillie brogues with buckles, as well as the close up of them. Do any of your other catalogues depict this style of shoe? I ask because this is how I have my ghillie brogues set up, but with short laces...

**longhuntr74** · 12th July 12, 08:06 AM

I tried multi-quoting, but it doesn't seem to be working right for some reason...so here goes.

To Gary Meakin: I think your question about the kilt pin is a very good one. It almost seems to imply that you would use the pin to pin the apron to the under apron...but to my knowledge that was never the case and can cause damage to the kilt. My initial thought was that maybe some kilts didn't have straps for securing the apron and that you pinned them instead...but then I can't recall any examples that have been presented here where that was the case save, perhaps, for during the 18th century. Every kilt I've seen from the 19th century through present day has straps or buttons.

To David Thorpe: What have you read that would lead you to believe that hunting sporrans were a new invention? I would wager money that the hunting sporran that we see HRH Prince Charles wear all the time dates to the 1940s, if not before. As I understand it, it is a family hand-me-down. The important difference to note (and Artificer has demonstrated this in one of his threads) is that the hunting sporrans of 'yore were constructed differently than they are today. Most (if not all) of the commercially produced hunting sporrans today have hard faces and backings. The old ones like HRH wears have soft bags on them and are quite flexible...so they really are just a much nicer, dressier version of the Rob Roy sporran.

My 2 cents....worth nothing, probably!

**Tobus** · 12th July 12, 08:39 AM

I'm curious about sporran #1. It's sealskin but with an antique brass cantle. I can't find in any of their descriptions where such a sporran would be suitable. They say that sporrans with metal tops are not worn during the day. But evening sporrans should be fur with a silver or plated cantle. Does a brass cantle count as a "plated" cantle?

**artificer** · 12th July 12, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by longhuntr74

To David Thorpe: What have you read that would lead you to believe that hunting sporrans were a new invention? I would wager money that the hunting sporran that we see HRH Prince Charles wear all the time dates to the 1940s, if not before. As I understand it, it is a family hand-me-down. The important difference to note (and Artificer has demonstrated this in one of his threads) is that the hunting sporrans of 'yore were constructed differently than they are today. Most (if not all) of the commercially produced hunting sporrans today have hard faces and backings. The old ones like HRH wears have soft bags on them and are quite flexible...so they really are just a much nicer, dressier version of the Rob Roy sporran.

My 2 cents....worth nothing, probably!

If I recall correctly, HRH Prince Charles' hunting sporran is a hand-me-down from either his Grandfather or uncle. My guess is that it predates WW2 by at least a decade, if not more.

Originally Posted by Tobus

I'm curious about sporran #1. It's sealskin but with an antique brass cantle. I can't find in any of their descriptions where such a sporran would be suitable. They say that sporrans with metal tops are not worn during the day. But evening sporrans should be fur with a silver or plated cantle. Does a brass cantle count as a "plated" cantle?

A sporran in the older style like that would travel all the way up to black tie. I don't believe it would work in white tie / court situations though.

edit: Plated refers to silver plating.

Interestingly, the only way to achieve a true mirror finish in brass is to take it and copper plate it, THEN replate in brass. Otherwise the impurities in solid brass cause small swirls/marks that show up if you're buffing to 2000g.

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**RogerWS76** · 12th July 12, 08:46 AM

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**David Thorpe** · 12th July 12, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by longhuntr74

...To David Thorpe: What have you read that would lead you to believe that hunting sporrans were a new invention?

There was an earlier discussion on sporrans in which the term "hunting sporran" was discussed at length. I detailed the specific elements of the style there. One poster didn't see it as a style distinct from "leather day sporran" at all. Another opined that the term was no more than a marketing scheme by vendors, which I, evidently wrongly, assumed to be a recent development.

**haukehaien** · 12th July 12, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by auld argonian

"Kilt Drawers"...well, that ought to take a bit of the wind out of the sails of the commando crowd...

Not just kilt drawers - woolen TARTAN kilt drawers.

Woolen.

Tartan.

Kilt drawers.

I have two questions:
1) Where can I buy some?
2) When can we have a sub-forum dedicated to this item of traditional Highland wear?