But is it still a kilt?

[CDNSushi]

I do like the "interchangable parts" idea though I'm not convinced on the skinny apron. Maybe if they went the other direction and made a WIDER (1/3 the waist size) apron as the 'add on' to their 8" wide apron vs. the SKINNY one... maybe then it would appeal to more traditional kilt wearers and non traditionalists alike. Instead they moved farther left of center.

Absolutely true. I would seriously consider another UK if they made one with a wider apron... But then again, WE here at XMTS aren't exactly their target demographic. We never have been.

[kc8ufv]

I just looked, and I don't really care for the new standard either. I must agree, the Mocker is the dressiest of the utilikilts, and have 1 Mocker and 1 original. My only issue with the Mocker is the way the pockets are, if I have a longer, thin-ish object (like my epipen) in the pocket, it has a tendency to lay down in the bottom of the pocket, and either find it's way in between my legs, or cause it to hang weird. I don't have that problem with the external pockets of the original.

[tundramanq]

Looks preference aside, the 8 inch apron is the Utilikilt claim to fame with the underpleating system it is about as bullet proof on the modesty side as you can get. It makes a good training kilt while learning the art of kilted sitting . It's the reason I use them when doing things where I can't pay attention to the exposure issue. The downside is you sit with a pile of fabric between your legs that is nice in winter but un-cool in summer where the traditionals leave only two layers of fabric in your lap. I think this New standard will fall somewhere in between. Adding a wide apron would require a wide snap pattern or an extra pair of snaps at the apron ends and probably moving the front beltloops totally onto the apron. Up side is it should always hang straight and independant of what the pleats are doing.

[CMcG]

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Since I have always taken the minimum definition of a kilt as a wrapped garment, the portion below the waist coming approximately to the knees, with pleats at the sides and back, and overlapping flat aprons in front; I would say this is not a kilt.

I think Xmarkers have a more specific use of the word "kilt" than the general population. For example, people in Canada refer to a schoolgirl's kilted skirt simply as a kilt.

Dictionaries say that, in general, a kilt is just any short, pleated, unbifurcated garment. They also say, however, the primary example is as the wraparound, tartan, Highland kilt worn by men...

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Kingdom: Vestiae
Phylum: Masculinis
Class: Pessum
Order: Non-bifurcatae
Family: Kiltae
Genus: Modernus
Species: neo-utilikiltus

CDNSushi, that is genius

[xman]

uhm ... 'gly

[Skiballa]

uhm ... 'gly

Yeah....MUGly, wicked mugly.

[Macman]

Kingdom: Vestiae
Phylum: Masculinis
Class: Pessum
Order: Non-bifurcatae
Family: Kiltae
Genus: Modernus
Species: neo-utilikiltus

I love this!

I wouldn't buy one, but if I was talking to a guy wearing one, I'd call it a kilt.

[David Thorpe]

I think Xmarkers have a more specific use of the word "kilt" than the general population. For example, people in Canada refer to a schoolgirl's kilted skirt simply as a kilt.

Dictionaries say that, in general, a kilt is just any short, pleated, unbifurcated garment. They also say, however, the primary example is as the wraparound, tartan, Highland kilt worn by men...

Xmarkers are far more highly educated specifically about kilts and kilt-like garments than are the public in general.

Personally, I wish there were another, more descriptive term/name for UTkilts and the like. Calling them kilts is rather like calling jeans trousers or calling Bermuda shorts birkenstocks. They simply are not, except by very broad and liberal definition.

Definitely not my cup of tea, as in would not be caught dead in one, but it is none of my business what other people decide to buy and wear.

[California Highlander]

Perhaps the example of the "European Men's Carryall" or murse might work here to help us come up with a name for this garment. It's a mens' skirt with kilt-like qualities. Perhaps a manskirt, or maybe a sklit (skirt+kilt)? That is along the lines of murse (man+purse) spork (spoon+fork), and skorts (skirt+shorts).

Looks more like a skirt for men to me than a kilt.

EDIT: just remembered our forum sponsor, Skilt already has that name covered and theirs look much more "kilt" than skirt to me than the new UK model.

[artificer]

Perhaps the example of the "European Men's Carryall" or murse might work here to help us come up with a name for this garment. It's a mens' skirt with kilt-like qualities. Perhaps a manskirt, or maybe a sklit (skirt+kilt)? That is along the lines of murse (man+purse) spork (spoon+fork), and skorts (skirt+shorts).

Looks more like a skirt for men to me than a kilt.

EDIT: just remembered our forum sponsor, Skilt already has that name covered and theirs look much more "kilt" than skirt to me than the new UK model.

There already is a generic name for kilt-like things that aren't traditional kilts. MUGS (Male Unbifurcated Garment)s
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