Unidirectional versus bidirectionsal pleats.

[tundramanq]

After wearing Rocky casuals for a few weeks in the heat and switching to a Utilikilt Mocker for a change I am really noticing the lack of waggle in the UK. Part is due to being cotton/poly I am sure. But I think the fact that the pleats reverse at center rear with the inverse box pleat is interrupting the "wave action" across the back. Am I on the right track - opinions?

[New World Czech]

I have a Kingussie Xmarks PV and get plenty of movement in the pleats. I don't know if going RevK would have changed that. I think it may have more to do with the material used as I get good swing from my box pleats in wool and the soft cotton in my new Alt.Kilt. My RevK UT is a fairly stiff carhartt type of material so not much happening in the rear.

[tundramanq]

Same here with the cotton duck Workmans - not much waggle in cardboard Not what they are made for anyway...
Another theory - the sewn edges of the pleats on the Uks may be impeding the swing also.

[MacMillans son]

Tundramang, I believe that the USAK casuals have the pleat edges sewn also, unless Rocky changed design along the way somewhere.

[gary meakin]

I wouldn't normally get to say this but you posted in general kilt talk instead of contemporary.
It has no waggle because it's not a kilt!!!

[tundramanq]

The USAKs I have (all this years ) have the hems sewn and the pleats sewn down but not the pleat edges (sewn in). We may have a mixup in terms - sewn in pleats (sewn knife edges) vs sewn down pleats vs hemed (vs selvedged).
OK my head is spinning too.

[tundramanq]

Gary it IS a kilt just not a traditional kilt. I do note from your kilt list that you are not a kilt wearer. You use them as costumes only. Thus you do not understand the rather huge advantages on the modern designs. The traditional tartan kilts are great pieces, I just won't be working on my car, in the garden or walking long distances in them ( The sporran turns the apron rub into an apron grind).
What you are saying in a rather nasty way is that between dress slacks and Levi's, one is not pants.

[Chas]

Regards

Chas

[tundramanq]

Sure did. We expect ignorance, intolerance and snide remarks from the public but not here.
BTW - I ignored Gary's first crack over on my web belt string. But hecklers never add anything to a discussion.

[Riverkilt]

I've owned a lot of Utilikits...at least 18 so far. I don't get any pleat swing or swish to speak of. My theory is its the material rather than the construction.