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15th September 12, 11:29 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by Alan H
This is so utterly and completely "not me". It's interesting, though.
I could not agree more Alan. Sorry Ron and with the greatest of respect, I find your train of thought rather sad.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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15th September 12, 11:43 PM
#2
Well understand that. Didn't expect it to fit for everyone.
First words of the original post are, "I know there are many reasons men choose to wear a kilt"
Different strokes for sure.
Was hoping the thread would be for those who do identify....
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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16th September 12, 02:25 AM
#3
Perhaps the more modern kiltie would identify. I know I do.
As an individual, Ive always walked to a different drummer. My kiltdom is just an extension of that.
Craig
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16th September 12, 04:17 AM
#4
I don't wear a kilt for its effect on other people. I don't care for any sort of "in your face" attitude, regardless who's doing it, or the subject matter....
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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16th September 12, 04:59 AM
#5
Interesting proposal, Ron. I say interesting because you've really touched on a very real part of wearing a kilt. Whether a gentleman intends to or not, they are pushing against the grain of social expectations by wearing a kilt. It doesn't matter if the said person is on the very progressive and unconventional edge of contemporary kilt style, or with the very conservative side of highland dress with the most discerning eye for historical accuracy, or anywhere in between for that matter - wearing a kilt where 99.99%+ of the male population wears bifurcated garments, and are expected to follow suit to be called 'normal', invariably pushes social expectations and 'rules' in the face of those very same people who decide to follow them.
Simply put, any kilting on a regular basis is 'in your face', whether intended or not, and regardless of how tastefully it's done. It's just the nature of the beast because it's so different from the daily monotony everyone has become used to.
Cheers,
-Jake
Last edited by Clockwork; 16th September 12 at 05:03 AM.
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16th September 12, 05:35 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by Clockwork
Interesting proposal, Ron. I say interesting because you've really touched on a very real part of wearing a kilt. Whether a gentleman intends to or not, they are pushing against the grain of social expectations by wearing a kilt. It doesn't matter if the said person is on the very progressive and unconventional edge of contemporary kilt style, or with the very conservative side of highland dress with the most discerning eye for historical accuracy, or anywhere in between for that matter - wearing a kilt where 99.99%+ of the male population wears bifurcated garments, and are expected to follow suit to be called 'normal', invariably pushes social expectations and 'rules' in the face of those very same people who decide to follow them.
Simply put, any kilting on a regular basis is 'in your face', whether intended or not, and regardless of how tastefully it's done. It's just the nature of the beast because it's so different from the daily monotony everyone has become used to.
Cheers,
-Jake
I am not saying that in Scotland there are not those who have the "in your face" kilt attitude and most certainly in my youth I did on occasion wear the kilt for effect, when a young lady was involved, but actually it is rare for the locals to appear to take any notice whatsoever. So on the whole you are backing the wrong horse if you want a reaction------even if you are wearing the kilt like a dogs dinner.
I have said many times that given the reactions that you chaps outwith Scotland appear to get whilst wearing the kilt , it would just not be my style to be "in your face"-----British reserve perhaps------ and besides, I would never be brave enough to do it!
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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16th September 12, 05:46 AM
#7
The reason I like Ron's words is that it perfectly reflects my attitude. I wear a kilt because it's comfortable, it looks great, and it reflects a bit of my heritage. And I really don't care if anybody likes it or not, I don't care if anybody approves of it or not, and I challenge anybody to confront me about it. Do what you do. If you ain't being you, you ain't being.
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16th September 12, 06:03 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
I am not saying that in Scotland there are not those who have the "in your face" kilt attitude and most certainly in my youth I did on occasion wear the kilt for effect, when a young lady was involved, but actually it is rare for the locals to appear to take any notice whatsoever. So on the whole you are backing the wrong horse if you want a reaction------even if you are wearing the kilt like a dogs dinner.
I have said many times that given the reactions that you chaps outwith Scotland appear to get whilst wearing the kilt , it would just not be my style to be "in your face"-----British reserve perhaps------ and besides, I would never be brave enough to do it!
Understood, my friend. In Scotland, with having been the place of origin of the kilt, I could certainly see there being less expectation for a gentleman to be bifurcated to be considered socially presentable, which is a mindset much desired here in the states. I'll give an example - a friend of mine on Facebook, who also lives in the US, posted this:
Last night at the fair, I saw a guy wearing a kilt. And then the guy behind me yells, "Why is that guy wearing a skirt? This is 'Murica!"
Seriously.
So, there lies an example of the difference between social expectations here and in Scotland. I tried to express my post in a way which emphasized reference to places where social expectations are more critical to modern day standards, where people are often pigeonholed and generally more ignorant, but I don't think I succeeded. My apologies for any confusion.
Cheers,
-Jake
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16th September 12, 05:00 AM
#9
interesting. This sort of thing makes me laugh, LitTrog,Jock I always look forward to your comments for humorous and knowledgeable remarks. The in your face bit ,if thats the way you feel, wear a sword and shield (only jesting) LOL
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16th September 12, 05:22 PM
#10
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Sorry Ron and with the greatest of respect, I find your train of thought rather sad.
Very nice.
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