HRH Duke of Rothesay at Knockando Woolmill opening

[LitTrog]

Rust from the tin roof

Tin doesn't rust! Goofballs.

Love that combo, though. Looks fantastical.

[OC Richard]

Sorry for the blurred quality but this is HRH kilt blown up a bit. Looks like Black Watch but Im no authority.

As people have alluded, this is the traditional tartan worn by Sergeants and Officers of The Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders, which the regiment calls "Sutherland".

Here it is, pre-RRS, being worn by the Pipe Major and Drum Major



A different sett, with a rather darker green, was worn by the Other Ranks of the regiment.

It is the Sergeants/Officers' sett, with the pale green, which has been adopted for all ranks of the RRS.

[MacThomas]

Many thanks for the information
Does anybody know how do the regiments have them pleated to the line (to black line or alternating double black lines/blue blocks or other) ? Do you think the results could be better with knife pleats rather than military box which I think the regiments traditionally use ?

[Downunder Kilt]

Here is one of Bugpipers ex MoD RRS kilts on his Ebay site. You will see that the kilt is pleated to the single black
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Scottish-M...item232363b911

[OC Richard]

Here's the rear of an Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders kilt. They are boxpleated. It is this kilt which has been adopted by the RRS.



for comparison here is the back of a Black Watch kilt. They are knifepleated.



And here's a side view of an Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders Sergeants/Officers kilt showing the panels and rosettes

[MacThomas]

Many thanks OC Richard,

This is interesting: it looks that the Black Watch version is alternating double black lines/blue blocks while the A&S is pleated to the black line (not sure)

[Couper]

I have an authentic thobe - brought to me from Baghdad by our son, who was in Iraq for a tour with the U.S. Army. The thobe I have is made of cotton but he told be there are also wool ones. He had experienced temperature ranges from the 30s to the 130s during the course of 13 months in the Suni Triangle

[Downunder Kilt]

Many thanks OC Richard,

This is interesting: it looks that the Black Watch version is alternating double black lines/blue blocks while the A&S is pleated to the black line (not sure)

You have it in one, that is the pleating difference between the two

[OC Richard]

Many thanks OC Richard,

This is interesting: it looks that the Black Watch version is alternating double black lines/blue blocks while the A&S is pleated to the black line (not sure)

Looks to me like both are pleated to the dark line in the green band; it's just that this line doesn't show up very well on the BW kilt because the green is dark. No Scottish military kilt has alternating pleats; all pleats are pleated to the same line in all the former kilted regiments. (No I'm not talking about Canadian military kilts, just Scottish ones.)

[M. A. C. Newsome]

Many thanks OC Richard,

This is interesting: it looks that the Black Watch version is alternating double black lines/blue blocks while the A&S is pleated to the black line (not sure)

That is correct, sir! There was a time when the 42nd and the A&S had their kilts made from the same color tartan, and the way the kilts were pleats was the only way to tell them apart.