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24th October 12, 02:38 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by westy1970
Wallace could be a commemorative tartan. Normally clansmen followed their Chief, but men of all names followed Sir William Wallace. It's the greatest of all Scottish names and should be honored.
The Kilt is my delight !
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24th December 12, 05:23 PM
#2
Sorry I'm a bit late to this one but I have an opinion on the matter.
My father's mother was a Shaw. A nice kilt inbthe Shaw Modern tartan is on my wishlist. My father's father's kin are called Colbert, from Galloway and of Norman stock. We also have Merritt , Eddings, Crumb, and MacKay blood. I would wear any tartan associated with these families or regions of occupancy/origin.
I feel no qualms about people wearing universal or clan tartans. History is on the side of that position. The notion of "clan" tartans is part of the romantic mythology of Scottish culture, particularly during the Victorian period.
No offense intended but facts are facts and no amount of romantic frollicking and fannying about will change that. Sorry.
I do prefer the look of darker and richer tartans (blues, greens, muted colours, et cetera) over bright ones (wouldn't ever wear Loud MacLeod, for example) but to each their own.
:-)
Kilts are for men, though...not ladies.
The Official [BREN]
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25th December 12, 07:13 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by TheOfficialBren
Sorry I'm a bit late to this one but I have an opinion on the matter.
Kilts are for men, though...not ladies.
Perhaps in some places - but in Britain women have worn kilts, back to when they could show their ankles without losing their standing in society. The kilts were longer than knee length, of course, as the average women's waist is closer to the ground, so even wearing a man's kilt found in the wardrobe whilst he was away wasn't so scandalous, and in the Great War there could well have been fabric to be found.
I had kilts to wear for school, some 55 years ago. Not as a uniform.
Anne the Pleater :ootd:
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29th December 12, 08:10 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by Pleater
Perhaps in some places - but in Britain women have worn kilts, back to when they could show their ankles without losing their standing in society. The kilts were longer than knee length, of course, as the average women's waist is closer to the ground, so even wearing a man's kilt found in the wardrobe whilst he was away wasn't so scandalous, and in the Great War there could well have been fabric to be found.
I had kilts to wear for school, some 55 years ago. Not as a uniform.
Anne the Pleater :ootd:
My apologies, Anne. I meant no offense.
The Official [BREN]
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30th December 12, 04:31 AM
#5
I have been keeping an eye on this thread and a point that has not been raised is this. Whilst those from outwith Scotland enthuse about Great Grandma's second cousin was married to a MacLeod and Uncle Ben's second cousin was a MacWhatever and so on and so on and so on and so on. So there is genuine connection, if rather tenuous, to umpteen different tartans and lo and behold overtime a whole wardrobe of different Clan tartans has evolved. Well alright, to a Scot that does seem more than a wee bit over the top and some may be a tad uncomfortable about it.
The Scots generally speaking, have direct connections to a multitude of Clans. My sons for example, can easily clock up at least 10 clans whose tartans they could wear, but like most kilt wearing Scots they wear just the one. I think the expense is one reason, but not the only one, or indeed the main one. We just don't go in for the minute detail ---in public----of justifying the tartan we wear, we have far more important things in life to think about. Peer pressure too is a factor, if, for example, you are a MacOnion and you are wearing a MacKarrot tartan(your Grand Mother's Clan) then people will wonder and should even more Clan tartans be worn by an individual then I am afraid he would be written down as a poser with more money than sense with a complete lack of knowledge ,or worse still, lack of care of how it is done . That's how we over here see it, it works for us and is in the long run simpler and cheaper er, well, less expensive too!
So to answer the questions. Is it offensive? No. Is it allowable? Yes.
To which I add my own question. Should you? ------------------.
Last edited by Jock Scot; 30th December 12 at 05:30 AM.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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30th December 12, 07:00 AM
#6
We so need a "Like Button" feature. I'll just give it a Kyle (***).
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31st December 12, 11:34 AM
#7
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
I have been keeping an eye on this thread ....
I haven't looked in here in a year and a half, and as i glanced through this I was wondering if I'd see you chime in, and was not disappointed, lol! Steadfast.
Lest I seem obsequious, I like your signature's character about as much as you like cartoon Scotsmen.
Merry New Year! - To all....life's short.
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1st January 13, 03:26 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by seumasFinn
I haven't looked in here in a year and a half, and as i glanced through this I was wondering if I'd see you chime in, and was not disappointed, lol! Steadfast.
Lest I seem obsequious, I like your signature's character about as much as you like cartoon Scotsmen.
Merry New Year! - To all....life's short.
Nice to see you back!I hope things are going well for you?
You know, it matters not who the words are uttered by, be they actors, cartoon characters, politicians, poets, generals, authors, tyrants, or whoever and we don't even have to like them as such. Sometimes though, just a few words in a one line and often an off the cuff comment, crystallise a pertinent thought into a memorable phrase. Here is another phrase that many might like to ponder on:
"Let us not take ourselves too seriously."
Queen Elizabeth II.
Last edited by Jock Scot; 1st January 13 at 03:29 AM.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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31st December 12, 08:37 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by TheOfficialBren
Sorry I'm a bit late to this one but I have an opinion on the matter.
Kilts are for men, though...not ladies.
Ahahahahahaahahaha.
--Always toward absent lovers love's tide stronger flows.
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3rd January 13, 05:30 AM
#10
 Originally Posted by TheOfficialBren
Kilts are for men, though...not ladies.
As always, there are exceptions made, such as for female pipers. I teased a female piper friend by referring to her as a transvestite, and she laughed.
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