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3rd December 12, 02:23 PM
#11
Originally Posted by sydnie7
BIG -1 LOL
To elaborate, as if I needed to explain. . . yes, to the OP's point, ladies often like "bad boys" (but no "boys" need apply, it's just a phrase). Whether the romance novel is pirates, cowboys, Highlanders or whatever, the theme of "lady and bad boy" runs rampant.
To Phil's point, even with all the chatter here about hose and colors and "swish," to me there is nothing inherently "safe" or "feminine" or "pretty" about kilts. The man makes the clothes, not the other way 'round.
Proudly Duncan [maternal], MacDonald and MacDaniel [paternal].
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3rd December 12, 04:58 PM
#12
I'd like to hear more from other women on this subject, I don't think the average man is best qualified to comment. I can say that on a recent trip to Amsterdam for the weekend, with my wife, we only noticed 3 overt reactions to my being kilted. All were women, one in a passing boat as I was taking photos and the others from 2 of the more attractive girls in the red light districts. As I was walking hand in hand with my wife and am in my 60's, I don't think they were trying to encourage any business.
If you are going to do it, do it in a kilt!
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3rd December 12, 05:04 PM
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It's the attributes to men. The swish of a kilt can enhance the natural stride of a kilted gentleman.
I agree the fact that it's not a typical garment men wear and so if a guy is seen he can appear more masculine as he is wearing something very different, exotic and eye catching.
One other thing to keep in mind is, and this works both way, the idea of what is underneath. For all the relieving and tight clothing, something that is looser and hides you can leave an idea of mystery or curiosity.
But here is the truth, the mind of a woman will always be a mystery.
-Nik
Edit - The wife finds me wearing the kilt attractive because it pisses her sister off.... without confrontation.
Last edited by Nik; 3rd December 12 at 06:38 PM.
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3rd December 12, 05:28 PM
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subliminal messages woven into the insides of the pleats only briefly and subconsciously visible in mid swish?
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3rd December 12, 07:02 PM
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So I consulted my local expert, Michele. "Why are women attracted to men in kilts?", I asked. "Because they're sexy" she replies like it's a silly question.
Geoff Withnell
"My comrades, they did never yield, for courage knows no bounds."
No longer subject to reveille US Marine.
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4th December 12, 09:21 AM
#16
Historically, there have been periods where it was normal for men to dress more flamboyantly, with brighter and more varied colors than the black/brown/blue palette that is now considered "masculine". I suspect that seeing a man who is confident wearing colors(and actually coordinating them!) is a welcome change for many women, and another reason to think that the kilted man might be more interesting than the sweatshirted masses.
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4th December 12, 11:44 AM
#17
Originally Posted by tpa
I'd like to hear more from other women on this subject, I don't think the average man is best qualified to comment.
As a woman, I can say I love to watch a man in a kilt walking, the swish of the pleats is mesmerizing! A man in a kilt just looks like a MAN!!!
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4th December 12, 09:04 PM
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I agree with the "confidence" comment. Confidence is sexy, whether it's a man or woman who exudes it. I don't think it has much to do with manliness, because whether someone is attracted to an alpha-male type is part personal preference, and part culture, upbringing, society, and other factors.
Here in Japan, the women often don't go for the manly-men types. Your typical Japanese teen heartthrob is very much a beta-male type. Pastel pinks, flowers, guyliner, and hair clips. In Japan, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a man wearing pink or floral patterns, even among regular, average males of any age.
In fact, there is a special Japanese word for what we in the west might call metrosexual. It is: bishonen. It means beautiful boy (or young man). It's very pervasive in Japanese manga and anime, and is well rooted in traditional, Japanese culture, going back hundreds of years. Like it or agree with it or not, it IS something that you will find in Asia. But from what I can gather, unlike "metrosexual," it doesn't come associated with the same stereotypes, baggage, or sometimes-negative implications. It is simply a "type" just like many other "types" of people that may exist in the world... Neither good nor bad.
Here's an example -- Japanese teen idol, Teppei Koike.
What you WILL notice however, is the guys who are popular with the ladies, and yet, have a strong androgynous or feminine side, are still very confident and tend to have strong personalities.
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5th December 12, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by CDNSushi
I agree with the "confidence" comment. Confidence is sexy, whether it's a man or woman who exudes it. I don't think it has much to do with manliness, because whether someone is attracted to an alpha-male type is part personal preference, and part culture, upbringing, society, and other factors.
Here in Japan, the women often don't go for the manly-men types. Your typical Japanese teen heartthrob is very much a beta-male type. Pastel pinks, flowers, guyliner, and hair clips. In Japan, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a man wearing pink or floral patterns, even among regular, average males of any age.
In fact, there is a special Japanese word for what we in the west might call metrosexual. It is: bishonen. It means beautiful boy (or young man). It's very pervasive in Japanese manga and anime, and is well rooted in traditional, Japanese culture, going back hundreds of years. Like it or agree with it or not, it IS something that you will find in Asia. But from what I can gather, unlike "metrosexual," it doesn't come associated with the same stereotypes, baggage, or sometimes-negative implications. It is simply a "type" just like many other "types" of people that may exist in the world... Neither good nor bad.
Here's an example -- Japanese teen idol, Teppei Koike.
What you WILL notice however, is the guys who are popular with the ladies, and yet, have a strong androgynous or feminine side, are still very confident and tend to have strong personalities.
Very interesting, JD. Does the concept of "bishonen" correlate to the Western concept of a "fop" or a "dandy" in the 18th and 19th centuries?
The Official [BREN]
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5th December 12, 05:17 AM
#20
Originally Posted by TheOfficialBren
Very interesting, JD. Does the concept of "bishonen" correlate to the Western concept of a "fop" or a "dandy" in the 18th and 19th centuries?
No, it certainly does not. Bishonen is more about physical appearance and personal presentation (skin, hair, and in more modern times, makeup), and physical characteristics (e.g. a lack of a large, muscular physique, lack of facial or body hair), whereas foppery or dandiism had everything to do with outlandish clothing and fashion.
But there actually IS a wiki article on it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishonen It's an interesting read!
The closest western equivalent is probably a pretty-boy, but that term certainly has a fair amount of negative connotation associated with it, whereas bishonen does not.
Last edited by CDNSushi; 5th December 12 at 05:18 AM.
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