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Tam Piperson A late 1500's listing of... 1st November 12, 06:08 PM
Sir Didymous Thanks for posting this. I... 23rd December 12, 10:41 PM
OC Richard Thanks for posting, very... 24th December 12, 04:58 AM
David Thorpe Nor MacPhersons, MacLochlans,... 24th December 12, 05:25 AM
madmacs Context may have an influence... 24th December 12, 08:27 AM
ThistleDown Mackeans, Ranalds and Ians... 24th December 12, 09:27 AM
EagleJCS Interesting that the only... 24th December 12, 11:49 AM
ThistleDown Remember that this is a list... 24th December 12, 12:07 PM
bdkilted Looks like most of the... 24th December 12, 12:09 PM
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    Thanks for posting, very interesting!

    I'd love to see the original spellings.

    No MacDonalds?
    Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    No MacDonalds?
    Nor MacPhersons, MacLochlans, MacNaughtens, Farquharsons, Forbes or MacTavishes. But then it's not the first or last time that Parliament got it wrong.

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    Context may have an influence on which clans were named, what was the act about?

    " Our sovereign lord and his three estates convened in this present parliament, considering the wicked inclination of the disordered subjects, inhabitants in some parts of the borders adjacent to England and in the highlands and isles, delighting in all mischiefs and most unnaturally and cruelly wasting, slaying, harrying and destroying their own neighbours and native country people, taking occasion of the least trouble that may occur in the inner parts of the realm when they think that care and thought of the repressing of their insolence is in any way forgotten, to renew their most barbarous cruelties and godless oppressions"

    Looks like a bad boys club... wasnt that everyone in Scotland other than Campbell of Argyll... ?

    A lot of the other clans are covered under the named individuals... [James Lamont], laird of Lamont, [Lauchlan] MacLean of Duart, etc

    Would the Macphersons be covered under Clan Chattan?
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    Mackeans, Ranalds and Ians comprised what is now called the Clan Donald; Macphersons and Farquharsons are Clan Chattan, as are Glenshee MacThomases and the Atholl Mackintoshes (MacRitchies) although named separately in this list. Forbes was one of those who prepared the list. MacTavish was a Campbell dependant.
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    Interesting that the only Scott's mentioned were the Scotts of Ewesdale. At the time, the Scott's (of Buccleuch) were one of the more powerful clans in the Middle March. The list has their neighbors/rivals, the Armstrongs, Elliots, Nicksons (Nixons), and Crosiers.
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    Remember that this is a list of clans and individuals at odds with the Parliament of the day. Buccleuch was not one of those. Most of the powerful Lowland families are not included simply because they were listing the ones that caused them personal problems as though they were national ones.

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    Looks like most of the Lothian clans are missing too. I think Madmacs has it right. This is not a list of clans, but a list of clans that someone didn't like. The Earl Marishal of Scotland was a Keith, so obviously the Keiths are missing from this list.
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    Clan Farquharson which was part of the Chattan Confederation, did not become a Clan of any note until the early 1600s. Donald(1st) of Castleton and Tillygarmond was the first to be called Chief of Clan Farquharson by the Privy Council in 1599.

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