Wow! Rex, your knowledge really impresses me! Have heard stories about North Inch Perth in 1396, and of Sir James Shaw who fell at Harlaw in 1411, though the Chattans (Shaws included) won the day.

Was the grating on ShawvMor's grave installed at the time of his burial or afterward? I came across another story of a Shaw chief being buried underneath a church floor where his enemy prayed regularly and that his enemy stamped on the floor to make sure he was still buried (apparently Shaw's body was stolen thrice and hanged outside his house to frighten his household). From what I gather, even his enemy was offended by the indignity and had Shaw reburied in his chapel.

Are the Shaws a landless clan, then? I know that our history has been a modest one, not like the Campbells, MacDonalds, or Douglases I have also read that there are connections to MacDuff and MacDonald, through a martiage between a daughter of the MacDonald chief.

Sorry for rambling. In America we are a bit geneologically challenged with people so ancient. Those within Scotland, or indeed any 'old' country are fortunate enough to live in and around the very fabric of that history.

Thanks humbly, again, ThistleDown.