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18th January 13, 05:15 PM
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Checking this thread myself, as my Great Grandmother was a Thomas from Wales, and her grandmothers were Davis and Hopkins - the only family names with tartans I was able to find.
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18th January 13, 05:49 PM
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I think I might want to watch this thread as well as my family (not my husbands) derived from the Morgans of Glamorgan, Wales
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18th January 13, 11:18 PM
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Confused, because Cornish means apertaining to Cornwall, which is in SW England, and there isn't even a land border between it and Wales. So, not sure what you mean?
OTOH, both areas are part of the celtic fringe - they just don't (quite) meet up. So, is your Bledsoe name Cornish or Welsh?
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19th January 13, 01:42 PM
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I traded emails with a website that sold tartan material, and was told that the Bledsoe name was of Cornish history, and supplied me with the Cornish National tartan. Perhaps I had a laps in mental function and tried to connect Cornwall and Welsh lands. If that be the case then we may consider this the end of this thread. But now I'm curious about this "fringe" area. Is it a term to describe an area that covers certain bands of people? Or something different?
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19th January 13, 06:10 PM
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Of the two strains of the Celtic languages, Welsh, Cornish and Breton are connected together in the Brythonic group and have more in common with each other than the other group, the Goidelic languages of Scottish and Irish Gaelic and Manx.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brythonic_languages
All the most common Welsh family names (there is no real equivalent Clan system) have tartans and samples can be seen at http://www.welsh-tartan.com/tartan-finder.php
Geographically speaking, although quite a distance by land from each other, they are pretty close neighbours across the Bristol Channel.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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6th March 13, 11:44 AM
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My great grandfather was a Whitaker and born in Montgomery,Wales. I've always loved my Welsh
heritage and lately been embracing it even more with a few Ddraig Goch tattoos . Also have Scottish ancestry and love it!!!! Love your heritage no matter what.
Last edited by scotswelshrunner; 6th March 13 at 11:45 AM.
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7th March 13, 06:33 AM
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Quote from Wikipedia (I know, I know, but in this case fairly accurate) "These areas of Europe are sometimes referred to as the "Celt belt" or "Celtic fringe" because of their location generally on the western edges of the continent, and of the states they inhabit (e.g. Brittany is in the northwest of France, Cornwall is in the south west of Great Britain, Wales in western Great Britain and the Gaelic-speaking parts of Ireland and Scotland are in the west of those countries).[50][51] Additionally, this region is known as the "Celtic Crescent" because of the near crescent shaped position of the nations in Europe.[52]"
 Originally Posted by PanhandleThrower
I traded emails with a website that sold tartan material, and was told that the Bledsoe name was of Cornish history, and supplied me with the Cornish National tartan. Perhaps I had a laps in mental function and tried to connect Cornwall and Welsh lands. If that be the case then we may consider this the end of this thread. But now I'm curious about this "fringe" area. Is it a term to describe an area that covers certain bands of people? Or something different?
Geoff Withnell
"My comrades, they did never yield, for courage knows no bounds."
No longer subject to reveille US Marine.
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7th March 13, 08:26 AM
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Steven, who has registered here as Tam Piperson, Jock Tamson, The Scotsman, Twa Corbies, and about 12 other pseudonyms has had his membership here repeatedly revoked.
Last edited by Steve Ashton; 7th March 13 at 12:13 PM.
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15th March 13, 01:38 PM
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As John Carrick says, Cornwall was known as West Wales. In the same era, the area we now know as Wales was called North Wales.
There are close linguistic ties between Wales, Cornwall and Brittany. Wales and Cornwall were the last regions where the British language (previously spoken over the whole of Britain to at least the vicinity of Edinburgh) was spoken after the Anglo-Saxon conquest. Brittany comes into the picture because many Britons fled the isles and settled in Brittany (the remaining region where Gaulish was spoken on the mainland). They appear to have influenced the language spoken there considerably, so that it is probably closer to Welsh and Cornish than the Armorican dialect spoken there in earlier times.
Regards,
Mike
Last edited by Mike_Oettle; 15th March 13 at 01:40 PM.
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