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20th January 13, 09:10 PM
#21
Wheeee 
A bit of rethink on the pleavage. I always wear wide belts, especially with the heavy wool kilts. Take the belt off and leave the kilt too loose and no squatting is needed. The heavy pleats will do the work.
Oh no, my mind sees the kilted equivelent to saggers - kilted prison buddy?
Last edited by tundramanq; 20th January 13 at 09:24 PM.
slàinte mhath, Chuck
Originally Posted by MeghanWalker,In answer to Goodgirlgoneplaids challenge:
"My sporran is bigger and hairier than your sporran"
Pants is only a present tense verb here. I once panted, but it's all cool now.
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20th January 13, 09:58 PM
#22
 Originally Posted by Chas
Unfortunately the Regency was from 1811 till 1820. Doesn't say much for the standard of reporting.
Regards
Chas
Totally agree with you Chas
George Bryan "Beau" Brummell (7 June 1778 – 30 March 1840)
If you take the dubious reporters word as gospel then George was a iconic gentleman at birth
Shoot straight you bastards. Don't make a mess of it. Harry (Breaker) Harbord Morant - Bushveldt Carbineers
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20th January 13, 10:34 PM
#23
 Originally Posted by Llwyd
No, that would be Pleavage..
I believe you've coined a new word into our lexicon, ... and a great spot for a sprig of dandelion.
I changed my signature. The old one was too ridiculous.
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20th January 13, 11:01 PM
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21st January 13, 12:34 AM
#25
 Originally Posted by mookien
i believe you've coined a new word into our lexicon, ... And a great spot for a sprig of dandelion. 
lmao!
The Official [BREN]
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21st January 13, 04:11 AM
#26
I too, found the article shallow, it's clear the writer has far too much time on her hands. What's troubling to me is that folks will read this drivel and take some of her outlandish ideas as fact, completely ignoring the rather thin attempt at redemption, brought in at the end.
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21st January 13, 07:16 AM
#27
 Originally Posted by BBNC
I too, found the article shallow, it's clear the writer has far too much time on her hands. What's troubling to me is that folks will read this drivel and take some of her outlandish ideas as fact, completely ignoring the rather thin attempt at redemption, brought in at the end.
In fairness, it was intended as a fashion op-ed with a redeeming punchline. We only get to capture hearts and minds one kilt at a time.
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21st January 13, 07:26 AM
#28
 Originally Posted by JohntheBiker
In fairness, it was intended as a fashion op-ed with a redeeming punchline. We only get to capture hearts and minds one kilt at a time.
This sounds fairly accurate. The journalist was encompassing men's unbifurcated garments in general, including some forms which are not fair game as topics on this forum. I think it is reasonable that she would also uncover a variety of intentions, meanings, and experience surrounding western men in unbifurcated garments.
I'm glad, at least, that she gave a nod to traditional Highland attire and to Burns celebrations.
Last edited by CMcG; 21st January 13 at 07:27 AM.
- Justitia et fortitudo invincibilia sunt
- An t'arm breac dearg
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22nd January 13, 08:11 AM
#29
While the article was written in a style that (obviously) rankles kilt-wearers, I think there were some very good points made. But you almost have to read between the lines to get the message. Here's what I took from it:
1. The author is quite correct that men's fashion underwent a dramatic change a couple of centuries ago, where they rather quickly transitioned from wearing flamboyantly embellished costumes to wearing plain clothing. This is the entire premise of the article. A shift occurred in the way society expects a man to dress, and men's fashion has not recovered from it.
2. Kilts (or "man skirts") were the main focus, but plenty of other examples were given to support the premise, such as cravats, bow ties, and pocket squares. The point being made was that men, unlike women, can easily stray too far into "look at me" territory, and western society tends to slap them down if they do it in the wrong context or overstep their bounds.
3. As for kilts, new attempts at "man skirt" fashions (like Kanye's recent flop) will fail for the reasons given above. But traditional kilts, in the Scottish style (i.e. Burns Night outfits, which is likely the only exposure the author has had to THCD), is still recognised and respected for its history and cultural significance.
On these three points, I really can't disagree with the author. Inflammatory jabs notwithstanding, she raises valid points about the history of men's wear and provides an accurate glimpse at the realities of contemporary men's fashion limitations. Her point, I believe, is that if you're going to wear the kilt, wear it traditionally and you'll be fine. But if you attempt to make it a new modern "man skirt" style, you'll run up against the brick wall of society that expects modern men to dress conservatively.
Last edited by Tobus; 22nd January 13 at 08:12 AM.
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22nd January 13, 08:47 AM
#30
Being of a conservative bent, I normally wear solid non bright colors. I find the solid color denim and twill modern kilts get as many compliments as the tartan traditionals. The tartan traditionals with sporrans tend to look too formal for daily wear in casual New Mexico and rural areas of Texas. The comments I get confirm this. Some "hayseeds" or unworldly see the tartan as just plaid and equate it to poka dots.
Last edited by tundramanq; 22nd January 13 at 09:18 AM.
slàinte mhath, Chuck
Originally Posted by MeghanWalker,In answer to Goodgirlgoneplaids challenge:
"My sporran is bigger and hairier than your sporran"
Pants is only a present tense verb here. I once panted, but it's all cool now.
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