'Black tie' questions

**Lime** · 2nd February 13, 04:31 AM

It's not a matter of 'kilt snobbery' per se, but of getting it right.

Indeed; I am always much happier when I know that I am right (and everyone else is wrong) than dressing incorrectly just to follow the fashion of the day.

**Lime** · 2nd February 13, 04:47 AM

I only wear a wing collar for white tie events. A fold down collar for black tie.

A good general rule although a stand up collar can be worn for Black Tie; but a fold down cannot be worn for White... and there are other subtle differences to a really good quality White Tie shirt; such as a high detachable collar and single cuffs fastened with cufflinks.

**Chas** · 2nd February 13, 05:15 AM

I wore detached collars for the first three years of my service career in the RAF (six days a week). I have also worn detached collars for black tie and for white tie events.

I can honestly say that I can see NO advantage in wearing a detached collar and would never buy one again.

They evolved at a time when homes, the streets, the workplaces, the whole world was far more dusty. Today we have vacuum cleaners, smoke free zones, vehicles with windows that close and showers.

The Victorians oft quoted "Cleanliness is next to Godliness", because their world was filthy!

I have never felt the need to change my collar two or three times a day. Attached collars for me every time.

Regards

Chas

**flairball** · 2nd February 13, 07:37 AM

I like black hose, and don't particularly dislike cream/off white hose either for that matter. I think it depends on when and how they are worn. I would probably wear black hose at a black tie event, but cream are just for knocking about. But I doubt I'll ever wear a kilt to a black tie event, as I already own a tux. To that end, I guess in context of this thread I've really not contributed much.

I need a coffee.

**Glen** · 2nd February 13, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by flairball

...But I doubt I'll ever wear a kilt to a black tie event, as I already own a tux. To that end, I guess in context of this thread I've really not contributed much.

I need a coffee.

My tux still waits. It is highland as a first choice, else mess kit.

Time for the second cup of tea...