Stewart Hunting Weathered

**sailortats** · 13th February 13, 06:48 AM

Bren, the disappointment for me lies in the idea that people that are familiar with kilts will see me wearing my Stewart Hunting (ancient) and not see a member of Clan Stewart but see someone wearing a "universal" kilt that is not necessarily even of Scottish descent.

**MacMillans son** · 13th February 13, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by sailortats

Bren, the disappointment for me lies in the idea that people that are familiar with kilts will see me wearing my Stewart Hunting (ancient) and not see a member of Clan Stewart but see someone wearing a "universal" kilt that is not necessarily even of Scottish descent.

Look on the bright side Phil, that may be the one thing that you and Prince Charles have in common!

See ya soon!

**Guinness>water** · 13th February 13, 07:41 AM

Sailortats,
what about the other Stewart tartans like Stewart of Appin or Atholl?

**sailortats** · 13th February 13, 08:11 AM

GW, actually I now have a Stewart Old Sett (modern) which is not as popular as the Black, Hunting and Royal. I feel a little more connected to the clan when wearing it. However, that being said, my Stewart Hunting is still my go to kilt for anything remotely formal.
I have thought about those other Stewart tartans but have not, as yet at least, acted upon getting one.

**TheOfficialBren** · 13th February 13, 12:17 PM

That makes sense, my friend...a bit like Campbell/Black Watch. I've kind of wondered what Stewarts and Campbells think about their tartans being marketed as "universal," but something positive about it is that the are such attractive tartans that they are in great demand.

;-)

**Guinness>water** · 14th February 13, 06:13 AM

I can see how the Black Watch tartan came into favor but why the Stewart? You would think, after the 45 rising and the defeat of the Jacobites that the Stewart tartan would have been banned or something. I think the pipers for the Black Watch Regiment wear the Stewart tartan. Kinda hypocritical aint it?

**neloon** · 14th February 13, 06:28 AM

In Scotland, I have only ever heard of Hunting Stewart being regarded as "universal" and I have no idea why. In the days when ex-army kilts were readily and cheaply available, there was a tendency to regard any of the regimental tartans as somewhat "neutral". Royal Stewart doesn't seem to be much in favour these days.
Alan

**OC Richard** · 14th February 13, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by neloon

In Scotland, I have only ever heard of Hunting Stewart being regarded as "universal" and I have no idea why. In the days when ex-army kilts were readily and cheaply available, there was a tendency to regard any of the regimental tartans as somewhat "neutral". Royal Stewart doesn't seem to be much in favour these days.
Alan

Makes sense, because some of the old regimental tartans were created for the regiment (Gordon, Erracht Cameron, Seaforth MacKenzie, and possibly Black Watch) and therefore weren't "clan" tartans per se (though some of them were later adopted by clans).

BTW ex-Army kilts are still widely and fairly cheaply available, nowadays the Royal Regiment of Scotland kilts. If you have a thin enough waist you can wear a nicely made heavyweight kilt for around $200.

About Royal Stuart falling from favour yes, at least in the Pipe Band world. I made a post a year or so ago in which I looked at the tartans worn by bands competing at the World Pipe Band Championships back in 2004, and a few different tartans were worn by a large number of bands (Royal Stuart 23 bands, MacLean of Duart 20 bands, Red MacPherson 18 bands). Nowadays the trend is away from the old clan tartans and many bands are wearing District tartans, modern fashion tartans, and bespoke tartans.

Here's the thread http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...d-dress-58885/

About Weathered Hunting Stewart, I'm suddenly wanting a kilt in that tartan! I do have some Stewart connexions, in that Cook (my last name) is often given as being connected to Stewart, and also more directly due to the Cooks and Stewarts intermarrying repeatedly in their 200 years of living in close proximity in what is now West Virginia (the Guyandotte River area). As an aside, these Cooks often used the maiden names of women who married into the family as first names for boys so my ancestors included men named Stewart Cook.

Here you can see that the Cooks and Stewarts were already intermarried by 1812 on the Guyandotte; I am a direct descendant of these very people

http://genealogytrails.com/wva/wyomi...st_church.html

**OC Richard** · 15th February 13, 05:42 AM

I was wondering if by chance anyone had kilts or swatches of this tartan in both the Dalgliesh "reproduction" and Lochcarron "weathered" and could photograph them side by side to compare the colour differences (16/17oz preferably).

**creagdhubh** · 20th February 13, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by bratach1

The competition is not the Bratch Gorm it is the annual memebers competition held at the HQ of the London Scottish in Horseferry Rd London. If it was the Bratach Willie would have been playing. the memeber comp is held in about May each year but the Bratach is in November. The SPSL tartan was designed by The House oF Labhran for the SPSL on a special weave. Currently all sold out.

Thanks for the clarification, Tim.