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    Address the envelope to: Donald Cameron of Lochiel and start the letter with Dear Sir.
    Last edited by Jock Scot; 26th February 13 at 01:17 PM.
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    Thanks Jock, I knew you would have the answer. Am off to Malta for a week within the next few days so will probably do it before I go.
    Friends stay in touch on FB simon Taylor-dando
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOfficialBren View Post
    I would be curious to know if any sitting chiefs or any of their close retinue are x-markers.
    Doubtful, though many of us know our respected clan chiefs well. I try to see my own (Cluny) twice a year, God willing.

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    As to the origin or design of Erracht Cameron, it's nearly identical to MacDonald, the only difference being a pair of fine red lines removed and replaced by a single yellow line. It become a "chicken or the egg" thing, because as I recall MacDonald isn't documented until Logan 1831, while Erracht Cameron dates to 1793.

    I've always loved Erract Cameron and would love to have a military style boxpleated kilt in it.

    Here we go, some old postcards etc showing Erracht Cameron in its "native element" the Army









    and a closeup of the lovely box pleats



    and yours truly wearing it

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    Quote Originally Posted by creagdhubh View Post
    Doubtful, though many of us know our respected clan chiefs well. I try to see my own (Cluny) twice a year, God willing.
    Lucky duck! I figured that it was a long shot.

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    Richard, great pictures. Thank you for sharing.
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    There's a thread for that! "Writing one's clan chief"

    http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...n-chief-75265/

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    Awesome! Thanks, CH.
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    I would tend to use the bbc for help on these matters .try DeBretts as well . Very good on etiquette.

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    I have drafted the letter and will hopefully post tomorrow if I get chance. Hopefully we will have a definitive response in due course.
    Friends stay in touch on FB simon Taylor-dando
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    As to the origin or design of Erracht Cameron, it's nearly identical to MacDonald, the only difference being a pair of fine red lines removed and replaced by a single yellow line. It become a "chicken or the egg" thing, because as I recall MacDonald isn't documented until Logan 1831, while Erracht Cameron dates to 1793.
    Not so. Wilsons were weaving MacDonald by 1800 at least and there is a speciment in the Cockburn collection of 1810. It's quite likely that it was originally a Fencible sett and so probably contemporary with the Erracht, there or there abouts.

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