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    Some old pictures that were sent to me, don't know the era they were worn.

    Here are some pictures a friend posted to me on another place. They are of, I think, historical kilt wearing. Some on here would know a lot more of the time they were worn.

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    Any ideas or opinions?
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    An awkward young lad in number 1. A bit self conscious and growing out of his jacket. Maybe a WW I picture taken as a keepsake by the soldier/father as he went off to war. The three things he loved - wife, son and dog.

    I am sure we have seen number 2 before. I believe that the consensus was that it was not genuinely old. Something about the two different tartans and his stance.

    Number three looks to have a tweed kilt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chas View Post
    An awkward young lad in number 1. A bit self conscious and growing out of his jacket. Maybe a WW I picture taken as a keepsake by the soldier/father as he went off to war. The three things he loved - wife, son and dog.

    I am sure we have seen number 2 before. I believe that the consensus was that it was not genuinely old. Something about the two different tartans and his stance.

    Number three looks to have a tweed kilt.

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    The one I like the most is number 3. The hat upon his head stands up quite a bit compared to most that are seen today. I cannot tell if that is a feather sticking up. Also noticed the sporran riding lower than what is common today as well as the shoes/boots he is wearing. The hose are killer, that patter is cool.
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    In relation to the boots, one of my old mates, who has never worn a kilt before, turned up in a pair to go to a gathering with us. These are R M Williams riding boots.


    I really liked the look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MizzouScotsman View Post
    Here are some pictures a friend posted to me on another place. They are of, I think, historical kilt wearing. Some on here would know a lot more of the time they were worn.

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    Any ideas or opinions?
    I did a quick google and found this:

    http://libraryhack.anotherbyte.net/pictures/view/77315

    "Jens Hansen Lundager (born Jens Larsen Hansen), was born 4 May 1853 in Denmark. His parents were Hans Jensen and Else AndersDatte and he grew up in the city of Bogense. He last lived in the city of Fredericia where he had a photographic business under the name Jens Larsen Hansen (Lundager was the village his mother Elser Andersdatter Jensen family came from, he took that name after he arrived in Australia). He came to Australia to combat symptoms of TB, and arrived on board the Charles Dickens, from Hamburg to Rockhampton on 26 February 1879. He took over the studio of of French photographer Louis Buderus."

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    According to a brief history of the photographer I found online, the photo (No 1) was taken between 1879 and 1892. His studio burnt down in 1892. He moved to Mt Morgan in Queensland and became a bookseller, amongst other things.
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    The third photograph can be found here:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/CDV-Photo-of...-/120908420212

    Looks like it's by R. Brown of Inverurie near Aberdeen Scotland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt View Post
    In relation to the boots, one of my old mates, who has never worn a kilt before, turned up in a pair to go to a gathering with us. These are R M Williams riding boots.
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    It looks like you must have helped dressing him! It is indeed a distinguished "country" look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam View Post
    It looks like you must have helped dressing him! It is indeed a distinguished "country" look.
    Just a smidgen
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    Quote Originally Posted by MizzouScotsman View Post
    Here are some pictures a friend posted to me on another place. They are of, I think, historical kilt wearing. Some on here would know a lot more of the time they were worn.

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    Any ideas or opinions?
    The middle one is obviously a "play dress-up" photo. These are usually quite obvious due to 1) a strange mixture of civilian and military items (often including the mixing of items from distinct military units) 2) things being improperly worn and 3) exaggerated poses. All of these are evident in that photo. For example he's wearing a Scots Guards Pipe Major's doublet but his sporran is that of The Black Watch. His kilt & plaid don't match (as they should if the fellow was indeed a military man) and the plaid is not only in a feminine tartan but also put on sloppily and missing the brooch. I could go on buy why?

    Some of these "play dress-up" photos are dull but some are quite interesting and reward close study. This is one such:

    http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...p-photo-74133/

    The photo on the left is obviously a genuine vintage photo, but who can say if the costume is owned or borrowed for the photo.

    The photo on the right is an extremely interesting early image of Highland Dress, extremely interesting because it dates from around the time The Highlanders of Scotland portraits were painted (1860s) and showing precisely the same sorts of dress, such as the wearing of ankle-boots with the kilt. Note that the pose is restrained and relaxed and this gentleman shows every evidence of wearing his own clothes (everything is worn correctly and everything fits well). This photo is Exhibit A for the Defence of the accuracy of The Highlanders of Scotland.

    Here are a number of vintage photos from around that time showing ankle boots, and concluding with one of the Highlanders of Scotland portraits showing identical dress









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