Ewan McGregor Investiture Wear

[Jock Scot]

Sorry Jock, do you mean morning dress 'grey', or kilt jacket grey for your friend at the palace?

And I don't think I'll know anyone who gets to go to the Palace, Jock! You're out of my league!! Lol

He wore a grey morning suit. I have ammended my post to make that clear.

[Jock Scot]

Jock, we might be getting mixed up here - my pos was a response to Chas, who was discussing his tails being grey. I merely pointed out that in my original post I had referenced the PC only because it was a less formal dress than the highland equivalent of morning dress (grey tails), and that I actually knew that a PC was evening wear - as are black tails (often worn with white tie, and occasionally (and more in the US during the 20's-40's) with black tie (though I would guess that black tie and tails are fairly rare now, if seen at all. I'm not sure if black tie and black tails were ever considered correct, but I have seen it a great deal in period photographs).

Anyway, it's all slightly irrelevant: I was merely apologising to Chas for my ambiguous writing in the original post which seems to give the impression that I thought Ewan ought to have worn a PC to his investiture. I was merely offering the PC up as an item of clothing more formal than an Argyle, but less formal than the Muir.

doh! I'm still not sure I've made that any better!

Morning dress coats(black is the usual colour) are cut very differently to evening dress coats(both have tails) and are easy to tell the difference at a glance once you know. A MAJOR faux pas lurks, if one wears the wrong one to the wrong event! And of course the trousers worn are different between the two, too!

[Nathan]

Jock: I would have thought he was in lounge suit equivalent but your post indicates he is not in morning suit or lounge suit equivalent. How exactly does his outfit diverge from a lounge suit equivalent?

Agreed, the black barrathea Argyll with silver buttons would be the most formal day wear option indeed. Incidentally, since they have become the ubiquitous pipe band uniform, I find it hard to look at them and not think of them in that context. Although I suppose I really ought to pick one up.

What about barrathea Argylls (say bottle green) with stag horn buttons as opposed to silver? Are they to be treated exactly as day tweeds or are they a step up as the cloth is more refined?

[Pipersson]

Mr MacKinnon writes in his marvellous book about morning suit.
Following this an Argyll - he calls it Dress Kilt Jacket -would have been the right choice. But as far as I got it tweed jackets in Scotland are not considered informal in general.
A PC is a pure evening jacket and won't do it here. Sean Connery wore one with a jabot when he dad his big day...
And- again following MacKinnon - for morning suit oaccasions a silver mounted dress sporran AND tartan hose would be the right choice. (Ewan frequently wears off-white hose what I personally find a bit boring. Following Matt there is such a great choice of colours so you don't have to wear off-white. That makes me believe Ewan really likes them.
So he could have done more but as long as the Queen did not complain...

Tom

[Jock Scot]

Jock: I would have thought he was in lounge suit equivalent but your post indicates he is not in morning suit or lounge suit equivalent. How exactly does his outfit diverge from a lounge suit equivalent?

Agreed, the black barrathea Argyll with silver buttons would be the most formal day wear option indeed. Incidentally, since they have become the ubiquitous pipe band uniform, I find it hard to look at them and not think of them in that context. Although I have I suppose I really ought to pick one up.

What about barrathea Argylls (say bottle green) with stag horn buttons as opposed to silver? Are they to be treated exactly as day tweeds or are they a step up as the cloth is more refined?

Fair questions.

To the first question. Its the white hose, ghillies and belt with waist coat(the belt buckle is hardly tweed day wear either) that let the look down as far as genuine day wear goes . I know, I know, I know! Some will be aghast at this, but for goodness sake let us at least know what is required, particularly when one really needs to know, as in this case perhaps, what is needed and then adapt as you wish afterwards, again, as has been done in this case. The question is, is the gentleman attired through knowledge or not? Not, in my judgement. Is the earth going to stop spnning because of it? No!

Frankly I regard barathea argylls in any colour other than black with suspicion particularly when they don't have silver buttons. I don't think the cloth in isolation adds or subtracts to a jackets formality, but the jacket that you describe falls between generally accepted definitions and not something that might be worn in any circumstance that might be considered as formal.

I will add though that an idea that I poached from another, many years ago, was to have two sets of buttons for the black barathea argyll. One the more usual silver buttons and another set of black buttons to reduce the bling a tadd and on the right occasion very effective it is too.

[JohntheBiker]

Frankly, losing the belt and he looks pretty well turned out. Now, being young, slim and attractive does wonders for any outfit!

[creagdhubh]

Frankly, losing the belt and he looks pretty well turned out. Now, being young, slim and attractive does wonders for any outfit!

I agree! I would also throw on a pair of kilt hose in an ancient green, or a lovat green hue. My favourite actor looks quite smart!

Cheers,

[TJ Kelley]

Uneducated stylist, or maybe she was on holiday. Although I love the tartan, and want the jacket/vest.

I came across a photo of Kiefer Sutherland formally kilted. Miss matched hose, long jacket and vest, wearing what appeared to be a plastic looking day sporran. I wondered with all the money he was worth couldn't he afford proper attire?

[Pipersson]

@ Kyle: I thought you were a purist

[Shedlock2000]

Jock, I think you mentioned something about the Gillie Brogues - I never really know what to do with my feet! I share the same reserve I think you do for them: I like them, but I hate them. What do you suggest?

I am surprised Sir Sean wore a PC - he does know better!

On a related hose-note, my kilt has a lot of Ancient Orange and Ancient Green in it. I am looking for diced or Argyle hose (something for formal wear) in white/cream and ancient orange or ancient green, but I cant find any anywhere. Most hose seem to be in modern colours which dont really go. I have tried the House of Cheviot, (and eBay) - all to no avail. Any suggestions?