Coat Of Arms Question?

**SlackerDrummer** · 17th August 13, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by Ethanintn

If any of you saw a coat of arms description hat read "sa. a fess between three cinquefoils (another cinquefoil pierced) ar.".Do you think the "(another cinquefoil pierced)" would be the crest,and would that just be a cinquefoil with a hole in it?

I would think someone copied it wrong. Since no one seems interested in answering your original question, do you have a context for us?

**Domehead** · 18th August 13, 04:35 AM

The first paragraph of my first response attempted to answer the OP's original question. The OP had a follow up query to contextual information.

**SlackerDrummer** · 18th August 13, 06:37 AM

DUH!!

Scott, I can't believe we didn't figure this upon first reading. The abbreviations ought to have given it away!

Ethan, you are obviously looking for a blazon in one of the many compendiums of arms listed by surname. I don't see this exact phrasing in Burke's, which usually uses "betw." instead of "between" anyway, but I'm guessing this is what you've found:

SURNAME, sa. a fess between three cinquefoils (another cinquefoil pierced) ar.

What that means is that someone with that surname has a coat of arms which is sa. a fess between three cinquefoils ar. but that there is a record of another coat of arms for someone with that surname that is sa. a fess between three cinquefoils pierced ar.

To give an example from my own surname. One of the listings in Burke's General Armory is "Mansfleld. Gu. a bend cotised betw. six crosses crosslet fltchee ar. (another, crosslets or)." This means there are records of coats of arms for people with the surname of Mansfield, one where the crosslets are white and another where they are gold.

**SlackerDrummer** · 18th August 13, 07:00 AM

Bingo. I did find it in Burke's also.

Wallinge. Sa. a fess betw. three cinqiiefoils (another, pierced) ar.

So what that means is that these are two known coats of arms for people with the surname Wallinge. First you would need to find out just who these arms belonged to since there is no such things as "family arms" associated with a surname and then it will require a good deal of genealogical research to discover if you are descended from either of them.