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    Quote Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt View Post
    Here is a link to Victoria police with some info
    http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content...ument_id=25574
    Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but to me a Sgian Dubh would fit in the
    category of Controlled Weapons -- but that doesn't give a lot of
    guidance about the when and where/wear of it.

    Though, (again maybe a gray hair thing) my experience with the
    Victoria Police is that they're generally fairly reasonable, so I'd
    sort of figure that if I stuck to the UK rules (even though this is
    Australia and not the UK) I'd be OK. And, yes, I do know enough
    that, if queried, I wouldn't say, "But it's legal in the UK."

    -Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie_Don View Post
    Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but to me a Sgian Dubh would fit in the
    category of Controlled Weapons -- but that doesn't give a lot of
    guidance about the when and where/wear of it.

    Though, (again maybe a gray hair thing) my experience with the
    Victoria Police is that they're generally fairly reasonable, so I'd
    sort of figure that if I stuck to the UK rules (even though this is
    Australia and not the UK) I'd be OK. And, yes, I do know enough
    that, if queried, I wouldn't say, "But it's legal in the UK."

    -Don
    After reading the full list - I would be inclined to agree with that interpretation:

    "Dagger
    A sharp pointed stabbing instrument (other than an oyster knife), ordinarily capable of being concealed on the person and having:
    (a) a flat blade with cutting edges (whether serrated or not serrated) along the length of both sides; or
    (b) a needle-like blade, the cross section of which is elliptical or has three or more sides. This does not include instruments such as swords or bayonets"

    so my current design with one sharp side should be perfectly acceptable.
    ---If you are going to die - Die with your boots on---

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    Ok so I think I have some clarification on this.
    they appear to be a "controlled" item not a "prohibited item"

    and in regard to "controlled" items, Vicpol have the following to say:

    "
    Controlled weapons are weapons that can be used for legitimate purposes but require regulation because of the possible danger they pose to the community. This category of weapon includes knives that while not considered prohibited weapons, still are a potential danger to the community.
    A person must not possess, carry or use a controlled weapon without lawful excuse. Lawful excuse includes:
    a) the pursuit of any lawful employment, duty or activity
    b) participation in any lawful sport, recreation or entertainment, and
    c) the legitimate collection, display or exhibition of weapon.
    Lawful excuse does not include for the purpose of self-defence."
    ---If you are going to die - Die with your boots on---

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    If I may suggest.

    Drop into your local police station. Ask them.

    You then have a pretty definitive answer.

    No one here, unless they are a serving member of your local constabulary, could give you a better answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Ashton View Post
    If I may suggest.

    Drop into your local police station. Ask them.

    You then have a pretty definitive answer.

    No one here, unless they are a serving member of your local constabulary, could give you a better answer.
    I have done so (earlier today), and they confirm the above is correct.
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    Consulting your local authorities is the best bet. The USA is an incredible patchwork of varying and often contradictory rules. For example, here in Maryland, just about any knife is legal, so long as it is carried openly, not concealed. So sgians are fine. In New York City, pocket knives are ok, but it is illegal to openly carry any knife, even if only a small portion is showing, so sgians are out.
    Geoff Withnell

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    No longer subject to reveille US Marine.

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    In Australia most laws are meant to be nation wide.
    such as the firearm laws, but there are always slight variations from state to state.
    generally speaking if you are polite to an officer, you get a little grace for being out of state.
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