WAGs and Kilt wearing

**Phil** · 29th August 13, 02:38 AM

Sounds like you have a real problem there, Don. Have you considered trading her in for a Scottish model? They never have a problem with men in kilts.

**McElmurry** · 29th August 13, 06:38 AM

In the US (or at least in the circles which I run) a WAG is a wild a-- guess. In the UK I guess it would be wild ar-- guess. In my business SWAG is a scientific wild a-- guess or what passes for engineering judgement.

**Nathan** · 29th August 13, 07:43 AM

My advice about this (and a good many other relationship issues) is as follows:

1) Be cool.
2) Have balls.

Don't look for her permission or approval to wear your kilt. Wear it with swagger and confidence. If she belittles you, tell her she wouldn't like it if you insulted things that were important to her. If this is a matter of culture, you can remind her about that also.

If you want her to associate kilts with manliness, it's important to act like a man. Don't act like a scared, insecure school girl who is desperate for her approval. If you go to a bar, ladies will likely flirt. This should drive the point home. Exude an "I look great and I know it" vibe and a healthy does of "I don't care if you agree" with it. Then you'll look like a "man in a kilt", not a "bloke in a skirt".

If she is generally a sour person who doesn't like the sports you like or the clothes you wear or your family members, you may need to ask deeper questions about your respective compatibility.

Remember: Confidence is the source of the sexy.

**Nile** · 29th August 13, 10:45 AM

Don, as I was thinking about a response, I read Nathan's advice and I think he is spot on.

In a relationship, couples share a wide variety of common interests, likes and desires. However, as individuals, we all have our deep personal likes and interests as well. I believe a good partnership strikes a balance between what the couple have in common and the expression their unique personalities which, in my opinion, make a relationship more sustainable and interesting.

I started wearing a kilt because of my wife's encouragement (she bought me one) so, I don't have your problem. However, when we did have sharp differences in the past, we both worked on a resolution and /or acceptance (we just simply learned to understand one another better) and, of course, our relationship matured and improved. After all, relationships are perhaps, the most precious experiences we have in life.

Originally Posted by Nathan

If she is generally a sour person who doesn't like the sports you like or the clothes you wear or your family members, you may need to ask deeper questions about your respective compatibility.

I realize that what Nathan says above may sound harsh (and I suppose we shouldn't be dispensing relationship advice) but, I have to agree with him. My first marriage went by the wayside for just such issues with no real compromise possible unless, I gave up everything (too one sided, no balance).

Don't give up on your principles and I hope you continue to wear your kilt. She doesn't have to wear one or even like it but, I would hope that she would accept it as part of you and rise above that in your relationship.

Nile

**RockyR** · 30th August 13, 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by Nathan

My advice about this (and a good many other relationship issues) is as follows:

1) Be cool.
2) Have balls.

Don't look for her permission or approval to wear your kilt. Wear it with swagger and confidence. If she belittles you, tell her she wouldn't like it if you insulted things that were important to her. If this is a matter of culture, you can remind her about that also.

If you want her to associate kilts with manliness, it's important to act like a man. Don't act like a scared, insecure school girl who is desperate for her approval. If you go to a bar, ladies will likely flirt. This should drive the point home. Exude an "I look great and I know it" vibe and a healthy does of "I don't care if you agree" with it. Then you'll look like a "man in a kilt", not a "bloke in a skirt".

If she is generally a sour person who doesn't like the sports you like or the clothes you wear or your family members, you may need to ask deeper questions about your respective compatibility.

Remember: Confidence is the source of the sexy.

As I was reading the first page, the thought popped up in my head: Why are guys afraid of their wives / girlfriends? I think Nathan summed it up nicely above.

If you want to wear a kilt, WEAR it. If she says she doesn't like it, EXPLAIN to her how it's part of your heritage and that it's an outward expression of the heritage you're proud of. If that doesn't work, let her know that "she obviously doesn't care about things that are important to you" and wear it anyway (that guilt trip should push your agenda a bit further down the road as you're accusing her of being insensitive).

If she still complains, in a stern voice, tell her that you'll be "approving" her clothing from now on in the same way she seems to want to "approve" yours, then start telling her EXACTLY what you think of certain fashion choices she's made. You'll either end up wearing the kilt OR throwing it out along with a pile of her clothes.

Women are creatures, just like us. They are not to be feared and obeyed, but should be an equal partner in a relationship. Some people don't get that and it baffles me.

**KiltFitz** · 30th August 13, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by RockyR

If you want to wear a kilt, WEAR it. If she says she doesn't like it, EXPLAIN to her how it's part of your heritage and that it's an outward expression of the heritage you're proud of. If that doesn't work, let her know that "she obviously doesn't care about things that are important to you" and wear it anyway (that guilt trip should push your agenda a bit further down the road as you're accusing her of being insensitive).

If she still complains, in a stern voice, tell her that you'll be "approving" her clothing from now on in the same way she seems to want to "approve" yours, then start telling her EXACTLY what you think of certain fashion choices she's made. You'll either end up wearing the kilt OR throwing it out along with a pile of her clothes.

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Make sure you have something cold to put on your eye after you've 'explained' things to her and given her a fashion critique. Look out the spare blanket and make up a comfortable bed on the sofa 'cos you'll be there for a while.

Not sure this is going in the right direction. Some people just don't like kilts. It's allowed. Wearing a kilt is not important enough to me to upset my girlfriend however (luckily, she loves to see me wearing my kilt) and I would be wary of guilt-trips or 'programming' as well which I hope was some tongue-in-cheek humour. I see my role in as a boyfriend is to love her,make her laugh and take where she wants to get to.

It's not just WAGs, some of my friends and cousins swore they would never wear one when we were younger. Watching the fun at ceilidhs, rugby and football changed their minds as we grew up however.

**HippieLee** · 30th August 13, 07:45 AM

My wife never had a problem with kilts (At least, if she does, she is indulging me and is looking forward to my first one arriving in November so she can see how it looks) but, thanks to a post in another thread here at X-Marks, when I told her that there is a company that makes Tartan carpet THAT's when the eye-rolling started...lol, I thought they were gonna roll right out the back of her head...I guess tartan carpet doesn't fit her plans of wanting hardwood floors....hmmmm, maybe a tartan area rug?

**andycwb** · 30th August 13, 02:17 PM

My wife has never been that favourable but I think it's a combination of either making sure I can stand the criticism that might ensue, or a hint of jealousy at the interest that might ensue.

Either way, I have both her agreement and the bride's to wear it to a family wedding in a few weeks.

**CDNSushi** · 29th August 13, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by McElmurry

In the US (or at least in the circles which I run) a WAG is a wild a-- guess. In the UK I guess it would be wild ar-- guess. In my business SWAG is a scientific wild a-- guess or what passes for engineering judgement.

WAGs are Wives and Girlfriends. I know it as a soccer term... Or perhaps a sports term in general.

**Father Bill** · 29th August 13, 10:56 AM

wãg², n. Facetious person, one given to jesting or practical jokes; (sl.) truant (esp. play~ or the~). Hence ~g’ery (4) n. ~ly² adv., ~g’ish-ness n., (-g-). [prob. f. prec.]

Concise Oxford English Dictionary.