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29th August 04, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Miah
here is a picture of a kilt box pleated.
You don't get to see those too often. Thanks for the post Miah!
There's a definate advantage to those. First, they go right back into place when you're active. The sway is uniform and the reveal is even. Second, they're pretty easy to iron! Just match-up the edges and voila!
The only thing that I personally have against them (and it's minimal) is that they look a little like the Roman garments. That's just not my thing. I would also imagine that it works MUCH better with a "thinner" material like Poly-Viscose, Cotton-Poly, Poly Twill or Worsted Wool. A 16oz wool might bulk-out if it's not ironed FLAT, and that's just too much like work.
That being said, watch me wind-up with a box pleat kilt!
Arise. Kill. Eat.
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29th August 04, 06:40 AM
#22
Two research papers on two misunderstood areas, especially in North America. The first was accepted and published.
Where can we see them? Do you have a link to them? Are they on the website anywhere?
Miah...
It's kind of illegal to make kilts like you described for profit (if you make one for yourself, they can't come after you... but I couldn't resell them). Utilikilts has a pattent on the "knife pletas to the back on the left, 1 box pleat, then backwards knife pleats to the front on the right". hey brag about it on the top of their site ("The Utility Patented Pleat System" patent # 6,282,723).
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29th August 04, 07:41 AM
#23
Hey T, A, C, N, S, M, B, and E...
I got the responses. Make sure to check out the KaberKilts information. The "new" stuff will be out shortly.
Arise. Kill. Eat.
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29th August 04, 07:47 AM
#24
what's with the letters, Jimmy?
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29th August 04, 04:28 PM
#25
Hell at that,.. well send the knife pleats the other way and go for a shaggy look. kinda like Bears grizzly cut it would tend to have a "A" shape to it I am sure. I am all for making something yours but what the hell is up with claming that that is there cut I knew thay had some patent but not specific.
so it kinda sucks that if i wanted to make kilts here local and sell them to the local yocals it would be against the law. grrr i hate the politics of it.
Oh but I had an Idea with the Box pleat in the center you could have a reversable kilt with one side be streamlined and the other shaggylike. as ling as the colors were close i bet the fring would be sexy.
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29th August 04, 05:34 PM
#26
Originally Posted by Miah
Hell at that,.. well send the knife pleats the other way and go for a shaggy look. kinda like Bears grizzly cut it would tend to have a "A" shape to it I am sure. I am all for making something yours but what the hell is up with claming that that is there cut I knew thay had some patent but not specific.
so it kinda sucks that if i wanted to make kilts here local and sell them to the local yocals it would be against the law. grrr i hate the politics of it.
Oh but I had an Idea with the Box pleat in the center you could have a reversable kilt with one side be streamlined and the other shaggylike. as ling as the colors were close i bet the fring would be sexy.
Miah Look at my post on the first page of this thread with reference to pleats....Have a look through History you will find that this style has been around for centuries.
The leather and hemp Kilt Guy in Stratford, Ontario
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29th August 04, 06:08 PM
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30th August 04, 06:49 AM
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At the highland games I went to all the bands were pleated to stripe. My wife was very impressed.
I am thinking that for those kilts that one would want to wear 'formally' it would be the way to go.
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30th August 04, 07:36 AM
#29
Originally Posted by Canuck
Look at my post on the first page of this thread with reference to pleats....Have a look through History you will find that this style has been around for centuries.
Nicely done Robert. The Utilikilts pleat in the back goes "in" instead of "out". It's a subtle difference, but one that's not a problem to avoid in the kiltmaking process. It only takes a subtle difference to avoid patent infringement.
You sir, are a kiltmaker that knows what he's doing, and talking about! Nice to see.
Arise. Kill. Eat.
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30th August 04, 09:08 AM
#30
Originally Posted by Jimmy Carbomb
Originally Posted by Canuck
Look at my post on the first page of this thread with reference to pleats....Have a look through History you will find that this style has been around for centuries.
Nicely done Robert. The Utilikilts pleat in the back goes "in" instead of "out". It's a subtle difference, but one that's not a problem to avoid in the kiltmaking process. It only takes a subtle difference to avoid patent infringement.
You sir, are a kiltmaker that knows what he's doing, and talking about! Nice to see.
Thanks Jimmy
This style of pleating AKA UK's can also be found in McCalls, Vogue... pattern books found in fabric stores. It's not a new way of pleating, with all due respect to Utilikiults. It's just no one has patented it before because it was in the public domain.
It's a nice alternative to pleating and one will find it waist coats military jackets, skirts and dresses. I've been looking at a lot of clothing through history to see what ways people pleated and the symetrical pleats with an inverted pleat in the centre has been around for centuries.
Cheers
Robert
The leather and hemp Kilt Guy in Stratford, Ontario
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