I have a 13oz 8yrd hand stitched from scottishkilts.net, in ancient Hay. 'Tis a thing of beauty. Although a hefty price tag ($384.25), I couldn't find a 13oz worsted wool 8yrd hand stitched for a better price elsewhere. The only thing is that, being traditional, it came right up under the ribs, and I think I'll order my next ones a couple inches shorter, just for comfort. I've got about six tartans on the waiting list....