Nah Im jumping in to this Too many years of being an Army guy...if i get edgy its gonna be fun. I am amazed at the Messages and help that has been offered. I was offered a discount price on them, but now it is a matter of me actually pridefully attempting to do this. worse thing that can happen is i ruin an old Army Green Jacket and i can easily get another. But i am taking pictures so i can show incase there is another "Joe" out there that wants to try and atempt this...hahaha.