Kilt Rentals for Masonic Event

[Kalok Sundancer]

*Sigh* Since every Grand Lodge is independent from every other Grand Lodge, there really is no overarching generally recognized Masonic tartan. Work with your own Grand Lodge. If they have one, fine, but good luck finding a bunch of them already stitched up, so the best is to have the fellows just wear their own tartans or something like Royal Stewart that many people think is universal.

R. W. & Ill. Bro. Bill White, 33º
Past Grand Chaplain,
The Grand Lodge of Canada in the Province of Ontario,
PMWS, London Sovereign Chapter

As a Mason, I am aware of this Brother Bill...

With that being said, most Jurisdictions, that I am aware of, recognize the Utah Masonic Tartan as the official Masonic Tartan here in the United States. I cannot vouch for what is recognized in other countries.

[McClef]

Certainly it is not considered to be universal over here Brother Kalok and the viewpoint of the Grand Lodge of Scotland can be seen at http://www.grandlodgescotland.com/in...masonic-tartan and without polling all the US GLs upon the matter I would be reluctant to accept your statement. I am aware that the Utah GL tartan is offered for universal Masonic usage but as to take up on that offer more research is needed.

I tried the Grand Lodge of Ohio website to see if they had anything on the subject but all I get is an error message so the site must be currently unavailable.

Over here I do not wear a Masonic tartan when kilted in Lodge, not have I seen so far anyone else so kilted. A nice Masonic kilt pin can give any tartan that Masonic je ne sais crois.

A Lodge Burns Supper is usually a White Table event to which friends and family can also be invited so the need for a Masonically labelled tartan is surely less important than any tartan kilt adding to the occasion.

[Father Bill]

** Snip ** A nice Masonic kilt pin can give any tartan that Masonic je ne sais crois.

I think there's a great idea; everybody wears their own kilt, but you get matching pins, possibly with a S & C logo.

[rebelrouser]

hi pete!
is this a lodge event you are doing? what lodge? I am a member of Jefferson #90 Middletown, ohio. I just got my kilt from usa kilts. the wait was 9 weeks.
best regards,
mark wells

[Kalok Sundancer]

Certainly it is not considered to be universal over here Brother Kalok and the viewpoint of the Grand Lodge of Scotland can be seen at http://www.grandlodgescotland.com/in...masonic-tartan and without polling all the US GLs upon the matter I would be reluctant to accept your statement. I am aware that the Utah GL tartan is offered for universal Masonic usage but as to take up on that offer more research is needed.

I tried the Grand Lodge of Ohio website to see if they had anything on the subject but all I get is an error message so the site must be currently unavailable.

Over here I do not wear a Masonic tartan when kilted in Lodge, not have I seen so far anyone else so kilted. A nice Masonic kilt pin can give any tartan that Masonic je ne sais crois.

A Lodge Burns Supper is usually a White Table event to which friends and family can also be invited so the need for a Masonically labelled tartan is surely less important than any tartan kilt adding to the occasion.

That's fine. I understand that. I've talked to someone that was in a position to speak knowledgeable only about US Grand Lodges, as he was a part of offering up the Masonic Tartan from Utah. I can't speak for Canada or Scottland. All I know is what I was told.

[BCAC]

This is neither the time nor the place to start on about the for or against freemasonry and probably neither the time nor the place to be talking about the differences of dress codes between masons of different countries (or different "lodges").

Suffice it to say that for any gathering of people where there are a lot of highland dress being worn, in my mind it always looks a lot better if everyone wears their own tartan than if everyone is "cookie cuttered" up in the same tartan. Just my opinion.

[McClef]

No arguments pro or con have occurred in this thread, nor would they be allowed.

Nor is it about dress codes, it is dealing with a query regarding kilt dress in a social setting under Lodge auspices and about whether or not there is an appropriate tartan and if so, its availability.

The question is more likely to attract responses from those X Marks members who are Masons and thus the discussion has that flavour, just as discussions regarding another group interest would also do with others.

The way the question is framed, the Lodge Officers in question do not already have their own tartan, hence the necessity to hire and the practicalities thereof.

[Kalok Sundancer]

No arguments pro or con have occurred in this thread, nor would they be allowed.

Nor is it about dress codes, it is dealing with a query regarding kilt dress in a social setting under Lodge auspices and about whether or not there is an appropriate tartan and if so, its availability.

The question is more likely to attract responses from those X Marks members who are Masons and thus the discussion has that flavour, just as discussions regarding another group interest would also do with others.

The way the question is framed, the Lodge Officers in question do not already have their own tartan, hence the necessity to hire and the practicalities thereof.

That does make for an interesting observation.

With all of the Masonic Jurisdictions out there (by out there, I mean world-wide), could you imagine the mess it would be for each one to have their own Tartan...

[McClef]

It's not a question of mess any more than all the existing variations in rituals and regalia is (wonderful and fascinating as they are) and discussion of these would be inappropriate here.

The fact remains that the laudable intentions of the GL of Utah notwithstanding, there cannot be a universal Masonic tartan for the reasons outlined earlier.

It's wonderful when folk want to attend a Burns Supper kilted, Masons or not. In this situation it happens to be Masons who do not have kilts of their own but whom we hope will in time. In the meantime we try and help them with the question in hand.

[McClef]

Given the thread, I thought it might be good to mention that there is an X Marks group for Kilted Masons at http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/g...hp?groupid=139 for any who might be interested. Please note that the emphasis is upon Kilts in a Masonic setting and not just Masonry itself.