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26th November 13, 07:42 AM
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So, this is just a tartan that some guy named the World Peace tartan, right? I have no knowledge of the tartan other than this thread. As I understand this, it was not created by a world peace organization, or other body associated with promoting or supporting world peace. Proceeds are going into his pocket, not to support an effort towards achieving world peace. So, other than it's name, it really has no significance or attachment to the cause/goal. If you design a tartan you can call it what you want, this guy chose "World Peace". I could make one called "End World Hunger" and put all the proceeds in my pocket too. Hmmmmm.......I think I just came up with my retirement plan
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26th November 13, 03:44 PM
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It's a charity that funds education initiatives and the alleviation of child poverty. It's endorsed by his holiness the Dalai Lama and also The Nobel Women’s Initiative who campaign globally on a number of anti-violence and peace issues.
It's symbolism is:
"The light blue represents the presence, hope and potential of the United Nations. Scotland is symbolized by the purple and green of the Scottish thistle. The red and black are reminders of the realities of war and violence and the great need for a new living culture of nonviolence. The white running through the pattern provides a counterbalance by representing peace and light."
I agree with Bren and presume it's legally protected to prevent it being blagged as other tartans have been (Isle of Skye and Princess Diana tartans as cases in point).
Background story to the Peace Tartan is here.
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26th November 13, 04:32 PM
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And if I may add the following link and tartan photo:https://www.facebook.com/WorldPeaceTartan
and it is available: http://www.heritageofscotland.com/se...id=&name=World Peace&offset=0Hawk
Last edited by Hawk; 26th November 13 at 04:39 PM.
Shawnee / Anishinabe and Clan Colquhoun
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26th November 13, 05:32 PM
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MacMillians son....if that bothers you, think of the people who just "Buy" the rights to certain tartans. And then have compleat control.....
Humor, is chaos; remembered in tranquillity- James Thurber
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26th November 13, 06:32 PM
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Thanks EB, it seems I should have done more research than just reading this thread. It now makes sense that it is licensed so that the proceeds can be accounted for and funneled to the intended causes. My apologies for short cutting my research, before posting I should asked a little more and assumed a little less.
Neither course would cause me bother Tess. Both are the benefit of living in a free market, make it and keep it, or make it and give it away neither is right, wrong, or better than the other in my opinion.
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26th November 13, 10:14 PM
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A the risk of sunding like a stuck record - why isn't this thread in the Tartan section?
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27th November 13, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by figheadair
... why isn't this thread in the Tartan section?...
I think possibly because it was originally a question about the reliability and dealings of HoS as a company rather than a discussion on the merits of a tartan with a cause. It's wandered off track a bit is all. Not that there is anything wrong with that, flowing conversations often do.
Last edited by English Bloke; 27th November 13 at 12:42 AM.
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27th November 13, 06:30 AM
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Having read the story behind it, and being a Buddhist to boot, I'm tempted to buy a scarf to present to our priest who comes to our festivals and Dhamma school. £17 is not much to show my appreciation of his teachings and support.
Martin.
AKA - The Scouter in a Kilt.
Proud, but homesick, son of Skye.
Member of the Clan MacLeod Society (Scotland)
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27th November 13, 07:13 AM
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Thanks so much for the advice, suggestions and opinions.
Last spring I saw a photo of the Dalai Lama wearing a scarf in the World Peace tartan. So I thought that he had endorsed it and that it was a good and noble thing.
I was very happy when a lady asked me to make a kilt for her in the World Peace tartan.
But I had no idea that it was going to be a not-so-simple situation.
Before posting this thread, the first thing I did was to search online for the tartan. I saw that it was restricted, so I wrote to the designer asking permission from him, and conveying a message from the lady about her sincere reasons for wanting that tartan. But I never heard back from him.
Next I checked the websites of the various mills in hopes that it was available but didn't see it listed.
Then, I saw that HoS was offering a variety of items in that tartan, but didn't see tartan yardage for sale. I told the lady that she might want to order a kilt from them, if that was the only way to get it in that tartan.
But thanks to Plaid Preacher, I saw that they actually do sell the tartan fabric. This might be the easiest solution... if the customer is okay with the tartan cost.
Thanks to Rocky's suggestion, I'm in the midst of writing directly to each of the mills, in hopes of finding out who weaves it and obtaining the tartan from that mill at trade price.
As far as the World Peace tartan being restricted, I thought the reason is that they don't want anyone to use it in a disrespectful way.
Bonnie Heather Greene, Kiltmaker and Artist
Traditional hand stitched kilts, kilt alterations, kilt-skirts
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27th November 13, 09:03 AM
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All the way down on their FB they say, that the first cloth was from DC Dalgliesh. That made me wonder why they sell trough HoS and not Scotweb.
The post is from 31. August 2012 and it says that the Dalai-Lama joined the Dalgliesh Hall of Fame.
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