so this is what we've come to? (Prince Charlie)

[creagdhubh]

Glad to oblige, I scanned and posted the entire catalogue here

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...talogue-74888/

Whilst we are on this topic...I recently ordered one of these the other day:



http://www.kinlochanderson.com/gifts...ess-since-1868

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/190...F8&me=&seller=

[saxandpipes]

Which reminds me- I inherited this cute wee book a while ago, and have been meaning to scan it properly…





But the point I want to make is that compared to some of the other "fashions" of the moment- the kilted examples are indeed "not that bad"- a bit over the top (the first), but compared to some of the sequiny and glittery fabrics grooms are presented with these days as being "wedding suits" these kilt outfits are positively subdued. Even the KA example, which is to be sure, not tailored to the model at all- probably costs relatively little compared to what those vintage fully bespoke outfits would have cost (Also, remember that the models are all hand-drawn in those early catalogues- the artist certainly isn't going to draw a waistcoat or jacket that doesn't sit quite right).

I suppose one way to go about it nowadays (if one really cared about such things) would be to order the "right size" or have it made to measure, then take it to a tailor to have it fitted properly. This is what I chose to do- and even then, it was difficult to have everything fit perfectly (I lost about 3 kilos in the weeks leading up to my wedding!) and of course, people are not created physically equal (unlike the wonderful hand-drawn models). Which is ultimately the point I am trying to make- just about anything will look half-decent on a man- if it fits correctly. The opposite is of course also true.

A quick google of images for "wedding suit" will illustrate what I mean. Try "classic wedding suit" and it only gets worse…

Cheers,

Michael

[Tim Little]

Whilst we are on this topic...I recently ordered one of these the other day:




http://www.kinlochanderson.com/gifts...ess-since-1868

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/190...F8&me=&seller=

Will be interested in how you like it, Kyle, as it recently caught my eye as well.

[KiltFitz]

Very smart! I love everything about this attire. The artist is rather good too.

Yes, although everyone appears to be either David Niven or Errol Flynn. So where are all the women?

[creagdhubh]

Yes, although everyone appears to be either David Niven or Errol Flynn. So where are all the women?

Hahahaha! Quite. In the book in which Michael shared (I have a copy too) there are women shown.

[Glen]

It would be nice if people could mix up their Prince Charlies a bit and wear green ones and blue ones and get away from black for a minute. (Note that no black Evening jackets are shown in the Anderson 1936 catalogue.)

Yes, multiple colours. I wore grey because at the last function green, blue and red PCs were present...

Easy way to make a plack PC stand out is with a red waistcoat.

From another tread, a c1960s catalogue, gentleman in the background.

[TheOfficialBren]

I have to agree with Glen about waistcoats. Red is great for PCs. The photo above is a top-notch example.

Given my druthers, I'd either go one extreme and wear a PC with a snazzy waistcoat (to avoid the sometimes-decried uniformity yet still have my feet firmly planted in tradition) or a completely modern (and respectable) garment [that fits THCD criteria] that has yet to be invented (and, in all seriousness, needs desperately to be invented for the 21st century).

Doublets, in my opinion, are too militaristc and a bit costumey (not to mention dated). Then again, these to-dos often really are just a grownup's occasion to play dress-up. Lol.

BELIEVE ME--the kilt will turn enough heads without the jarring effect of archaic (anachronistic?) clothing designed to be elegant in its day and in danger of teetering on irrelevant today. K.I.S. (Keep It Simple.)

A little dab'll do ya!

[Nathan]

Doublets, in my opinion, are too militaristc and a bit costumey (not to mention dated). Then again, these to-dos often really are just a grownup's occasion to play dress-up. Lol.

BELIEVE ME--the kilt will turn enough heads without the jarring effect of archaic (anachronistic?) clothing designed to be elegant in its day and in danger of teetering on irrelevant today. K.I.S. (Keep It Simple.)

A little dab'll do ya!

To each his own. I think there's room for both a modern and a new school approach. I love my doublets, especially my green Kenmore/Balmoral. It fits me well and I got a ton of compliments when I wore it in a sea of black PCs and Argylls. That's the thing about traditional attire, it's hard for it to look dated since it's supposed to be old school. It's almost timeless.

Regarding the militaristic touches, I agree with you but I don't see that as a bad thing. Highlanders were and are warriors. The kilt was kept alive during proscription via Highland Regiments. Look how many members of this forum alone have military experience. It's in the DNA!

The attire and the martial roots of the people are closely connected.

Apologies to the folks who have seen these all before but...









I've had a PC since I was 14 or 15 and I'm just bored with it. I still keep it around for when I'm going to be the only kilted at a tuxedo doo. For those occasions, it's perfect. The kilt stands out enough.

[Starhunter451]

I thought that the hose was to match the tartan or black. Am I wrong?

[ASinclair]

To each his own. I think there's room for both a modern and a new school approach. I love my doublets, especially my green Kenmore/Balmoral. It fits me well and I got a ton of compliments when I wore it in a sea of black PC's and Argyll's. That's the thing about traditional attire, it's hard for it to look dated since it's supposed to be old school. It's almost timeless.

Regarding the militaristic touches, I agree with you but I don't see that as a bad thing. Highlanders were and are warriors. The kilt was kept alive during proscription via Highland Regiments. Look how many members of this forum alone have military experience. It's in the DNA!

The attire and the martial roots of the people are closely connected.

Apologies to the folks who have seen these all before but...









I've had a PC since I was 14 or 15 and I'm just bored with it. I still keep it around for when I'm going to be the only kilted at a tuxedo doo. For those occasions, it's perfect. The kilt stands out enough.

Nathan, I agree with you on the old school attire and the warrior DNA. I have seen these pictures before, and let me take this opportunity to compliment you on how smart you look in the green doublet.