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                                                8th January 14, 07:54 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Right you are, Father. Perhaps I went too deep into an old wound as this history can be viewed from many angles and could easily strike a nerve. I humbly request that nobody take any bait I may have inadvertently dropped.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Father Bill   A shot across the bow, fellows.  Without real care, this could go south rather badly.
 Father Bill for the Forum Moderators.
 
 I really wanted to ask about the badge. Perhaps it's a legitimate clan badge,  with which I'm just not familiar? Hmmmm.
 
				
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 “Yet still the blood is strong, the heart is Highland, And we, in dreams, behold the Hebrides.” - The Canadian Boat Song.
 
	
	
	
	
		
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                                                8th January 14, 08:21 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					As has been said already, there are several clan Chiefs (including my own) who use the boar's head as the crest of their arms and as the main symbol of their badges. Most of the illustrations of the Campbell crest I have seen feature tusks exaggerated vertically, so if this is supposed to be a Campbell boar, it is not typical.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                8th January 14, 08:22 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Football , only rivals ? Life and death , football is far more important than mere rivalry , mortal enemies in some eyes LOL
				 
	
	
	
	
		
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                                                8th January 14, 08:26 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I post this only to try to add some humour to the topic, so please don't take offense:
 
   "Good judgement comes from experience, and experiencewell, that comes from poor judgement."
 A. A. Milne
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                8th January 14, 08:27 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					First of all, I think the points made by all the commentators to this thread so far are all valid and absolutely spot on.  
 However, even sitting as I do here in Sleat - withing 300 yards of the ruins Armadale Castle - I recognised instantly that Nathan's tongue was indeed (cleverly, I thought) firmly planted in his cheek when he posed his initial conundrum.
 
 This hybrid badge IS highly unusual to those "in the know".  It was either created in ignorant innocent bliss, or as a deliberate antagonistic foil.  Sadly, unless it's provenance is established, or the original "artist" comes forward with a motive, we will never know "what the heck this is."
 Orionson"I seek not to follow in the footsteps of the men of old.
 I seek the things they sought." ~ Basho
 
	
	
	
	
		
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                                                8th January 14, 08:28 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Actually when I read the title of the post, I thought perhaps you were referring to "scotch and coke" - now that truly is unholy!
				 "Good judgement comes from experience, and experiencewell, that comes from poor judgement."
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                                                8th January 14, 08:40 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Thank you, folks, for attempts at calm, well-humoured examination of an interesting anomaly.  Let's keep going that way!
 Well done, O Great Rabble!
 Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
 
	
	
	
	
		
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                                                8th January 14, 08:40 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Could the badge actually be that of Urquhart of Meldrum?
 According to Fairbairn's Book of Crests of the Families of Great Britain and Ireland:
 
 Urquhart of Meldrum, Aberdeenshire, Scotland- a boar's head erased or.  Per mare per terras
 
	
	
	
	
		
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                                                8th January 14, 08:54 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	I think you are right.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Arnot   Could the badge actually be that of Urquhart of Meldrum?
 According to Fairbairn's Book of Crests of the Families of Great Britain and Ireland:
 
 Urquhart of Meldrum, Aberdeenshire, Scotland- a boar's head erased or.  Per mare per terras
 The book should be accessible here: https://archive.org/details/fairbairnsbookof01fair
 
	
	
	
	
		
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                                                8th January 14, 10:14 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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