X Marks the Scot - An on-line community of kilt wearers.

   X Marks Partners - (Go to the Partners Dedicated Forums )
USA Kilts website Celtic Croft website Celtic Corner website Houston Kiltmakers

User Tag List

Results 1 to 8 of 8
  1. #1
    Join Date
    18th August 13
    Location
    Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
    Posts
    3,572
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Clan, Family, House - What's the difference?

    I've read the explanation that there are Highland clans and Lowland families. But why are there houses (House of Burnett and House of Gordon)? Can someone explain or recommend a book that discusses this subject?
    Allen Sinclair, FSA Scot
    Eastern Region Vice President
    North Carolina Commissioner
    Clan Sinclair Association (USA)

  2. #2
    Join Date
    6th February 10
    Location
    U.S.
    Posts
    8,180
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    According to the Clan Gordon (House of Gordon):

    "The Gordon clan has included both Highland and Lowland branches of the family since
    the 15th century and also has branches of the family in Russia, Germany, Belgium, The
    Netherlands, Spain, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the United States as well as
    other parts of the world. It was felt that to be called a Highland Clan only did not truly
    reflect the history of the Gordons, therefore the Chief chose to call the clan by the name
    House of Gordon."


    http://www.houseofgordonusa.org/aboutus.html

    It is likely that this is the same reasoning why other Scottish families/clans, such as the House of Burnett, use the prefix of "House of . . ." As a term referring to a 'collective identity' containing branches from the Highlands, Lowlands and the Borders. The same could be said of the House of Stuart, which we all know is a Royal house.
    Last edited by creagdhubh; 9th January 14 at 12:28 PM.

  3. The Following 4 Users say 'Aye' to creagdhubh For This Useful Post:


  4. #3
    Join Date
    18th August 13
    Location
    Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
    Posts
    3,572
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Not sure why it didn't occur to me to just checkout the websites of various "House of . . " and see if they explain it. Thanks, Kyle!
    Allen Sinclair, FSA Scot
    Eastern Region Vice President
    North Carolina Commissioner
    Clan Sinclair Association (USA)

  5. The Following User Says 'Aye' to ASinclair For This Useful Post:


  6. #4
    Join Date
    6th February 10
    Location
    U.S.
    Posts
    8,180
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ASinclair View Post
    Not sure why it didn't occur to me to just checkout the websites of various "House of . . " and see if they explain it. Thanks, Kyle!
    No worries, Allen. I actually have a two good mates; one of the House of Gordon and the other of the House of Burnett. When I read your post, I initially recalled both of them telling me some time ago the main reasons why their clan/family is referred to as "House of . . .," but I wanted to double check with the official website(s) of both families, just to be certain!

  7. #5
    Join Date
    1st August 11
    Location
    Romsey Nr Southampton UK
    Posts
    2,003
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by creagdhubh View Post
    According to the Clan Gordon (House of Gordon):

    "The Gordon clan has included both Highland and Lowland branches of the family since
    the 15th century and also has branches of the family in Russia, Germany, Belgium, The
    Netherlands, Spain, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the United States as well as
    other parts of the world. It was felt that to be called a Highland Clan only did not truly
    reflect the history of the Gordons, therefore the Chief chose to call the clan by the name
    House of Gordon."


    http://www.houseofgordonusa.org/aboutus.html

    It is likely that this is the same reasoning why other Scottish families/clans, such as the House of Burnett, use the prefix of "House of . . ." As a term referring to a 'collective identity' containing branches from the Highlands, Lowlands and the Borders. The same could be said of the House of Stuart, which we all know is a Royal house.
    An excellent interpretation and explanation Kyle! am out of Ayes so a huge plus 1 from me.
    Friends stay in touch on FB simon Taylor-dando
    Best regards
    Simon

  8. The Following User Says 'Aye' to Grizzly For This Useful Post:


  9. #6
    Join Date
    15th August 12
    Location
    Tennessee, USA
    Posts
    3,316
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    There are also Polish Gordons. I have a friend who is such a Gordon.
    The Official [BREN]

  10. #7
    Join Date
    7th February 11
    Location
    London, Canada
    Posts
    9,506
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    ... and Polish police use Polish polish!
    Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair.

  11. #8
    Join Date
    27th December 13
    Location
    Pensacola, FL
    Posts
    49
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Good Heavens my head just exploded.

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

» Log in

User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.0