Dress codes and changing trends

[Geoff Withnell]

Molach, I believe ,means "furry". What is a sporran moloch? Beyond a fur sporran, that is.

[Pleater]

My first thought was a dreadful, child eating sporran - but that would be Moloch, or Molech

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

[MacRobert's Reply]

Big hairy beastie: a hair sporran, usually goat or horse hair, much worn by the victorians and by many pipers to this day.

[creagdhubh]

Molach, I believe ,means "furry". What is a sporran moloch? Beyond a fur sporran, that is.

It's a term mainly used for a sporran made of horse or goat hair.

[Nathan]

Is it really correct to wear a BBSBA to a black tie affair?

Since I didn't say anything about the office dinner dance, I'll just answer this one. The answer, in my view, is yes. I cite the following sources:

http://www.blacktieguide.com/Supplemental/Scottish.htm

post 21, 26 & 37 in the overdoing it thread
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...39/index4.html

Post 1 in the 1 kilt 10 looks thread
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...-attire-46888/

Page 60 - in the Third revised soft cover edition of So You're Going to Wear the Kilt by J. Charles Thompson in the chapter on jackets.

The Argyll is the least formal of the black tie options but is good for black tie just the same.

[ASinclair]

A very interesting thread... I will be watching this one with great interest.

I'm very interested in this, as well.

[Nathan]

My first thought was a dreadful, child eating sporran - but that would be Moloch, or Molech

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

Indeed, of course if we're going to mix our Gaelic with our Biblical Hebrew, we'd be remiss if we didn't acknowledge that although to wear a "sporran molech" would be a beastly sacrifice, to say the least; a "sporran melech" would be fit for a king and a "sporran malach" would be downright angelic.

[Manxstralian]

But suffice it to say that western culture is shifting radically away from the traditional, and I'm sure there are many who would argue that this is not a "decline" at all. I disagree. While there are various aspects to traditional culture that are better left in the past, and upon which we can greatly improve our society, I think the overall trend is not good.

I won't presume to speak for others, but I have no interest in going along with the flow. Dressing conservatively is only one of many ways in which I am making my own humble attempt to preserve the world I know.

Agreed 100%!

As George Orwell said regarding language (which I see as a parallel);

"Now, it is clear that the decline of a language must ultimately have political and economic causes: it is not due simply to the bad influence of this or that individual writer. But an effect can become a cause, reinforcing the original cause and producing the same effect in an intensified form, and so on indefinitely. A man may take to drink because he feels himself to be a failure, and then fail all the more completely because he drinks. It is rather the same thing that is happening to the English language. It becomes ugly and inaccurate because our thoughts are foolish, but the slovenliness of our language makes it easier for us to have foolish thoughts." (Politics and the English Language, 1946).

Regards,

Cameron

[tpa]

Whilst I'll admit to a tendency to dress down rather than up, it does seem a shame that the opportunities for more formal wear seem so few and far between these days. It's over 20 years since I last had the opportunity (and could afford) to go to a formal evening event. The clothes should last for many generations at the current rate, provided the moths don't get at them; so it is possibly no surprise if people trot out 'inappropriate' wear occasionally just to get some use out of it.

[okiwen]

All this is well and good. I like to dress up and I like to dress casual. I have just plain run out of closet space. No two ways about it, I am now trying desperately to learn how to look good as I can't help but look, with fewer items.