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    Laying out box pleats uses the same system but you must first understand how you make a box pleat differs from how you make a knife pleat.

    Here are knife pleats To The Sett.



    And here are knife pleats To The Stripe.



    And here are box pleats To The Stripe.



    (I apologize that I did not have a photo of the box pleats to the same white stripe as was used for the knife pleats. The concept is exactly the same. The distance from yellow to yellow is exactly the same as from white to white.)

    If you look closely at the way the box peat is made you should be able see that from one yellow stripe to the next yellow stripe the box pleat has six parts.
    Center of yellow to outside pleat edge
    outside pleat edge to inside pleat edge
    Inside to pleat edge to center of white
    and then a mirror image opposite leading back to the next yellow.

    To lay out box pleats move your layout strip up and down till your Sett is divided into six equal divisions. Mark, press baste and sew.
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    I understand. Thanks for the quick response.

    While it is doubtful I would ever sew a kilt, I believe understanding the hows and whys of kiltmaking, makes for a better informed buyer, which helps the kiltmaking industry to maintain high standards and quality products.

    We all win. Kiltmakers, buyers, and in my case, my children and grandchildren who are already talking about who gets my kilts,......when I'm gone.
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    Give him power.[/B][/I] - [I]Abraham Lincoln[/I]

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    When you pull the strip around your butt, what do you do if a marked pleat edge doesn't line up with your trouser side seams? Do you just pull it tighter or let it out until a pleat edge does line up at the trouser side seam?
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    Aha, you have just run into the "Art" part of The Art of Kiltmaking.

    This is something that just takes a bit of experience. In general, if you have a choice, make the kilt just a bit bigger. Now please understand that I am talking less than 1 inch here.

    A kilt 2" or 3" bigger in the hip may cause the pleats to form 'stage curtain' waves in the back.
    A kilt even 1" too small in the hip and it will distort. The pleats will not hang parallel and the aprons will gape open.

    So, a little bit bigger is usually the way to 'round off'.

    There are other factors you should take into account like large thighs, a very prominent butt or a very large stomach but I would just confuse you. This comes under the proper fit of a kilt and not laying out pleats.
    Steve Ashton
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    I wear the kilt because:
    Swish + Swagger = Swoon.

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    I knew that a little bigger was better. Have you ever had to drop a pleat and go to an even number in order to accommodate? Pleating to the stripe this wouldn't be such a big deal. Pleating to the sett, you'd have to layout where your pleats will be folded again.
    Last edited by Aspiringloser; 14th March 14 at 06:03 PM.
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    I may have an even number of pleats if pleating to the Stripe.
    If pleating to the Sett I always use an odd number of pleats. This is because I always lay out my pleats with the same stripe in the center rear as I have in the center of the front apron.

    In fact when pleating to the Sett my kilts come out symmetrical. My under apron looks just like my outer apron.
    Steve Ashton
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    Skype (webcam enabled) thewizardofbc
    I wear the kilt because:
    Swish + Swagger = Swoon.

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    You could still pleat an even number to the sett, you'd just have a center back seam instead of a center back pleat.
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    Your cheater template has brought making my own kilt nearer to a reality. And the photos just help solidify it in my head. Now it makes sense to me, thank you for this thread!
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    Time to incorporate this into my "TAoK" info pool!
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