I need advice from the rabble a new kilt purchase. Clan tartan, or Family tartan???

**davidlpope** · 25th February 14, 03:50 PM

The Leckie tartan bears a strong resemblance to the Lennox tartan. From a distance (and given the rarity of Leckie tartan kilts) I bet it will taken as such. I'm all in favor of custom weaves, but I think I would probably go with the MacGregor Clan tartan in Wilson's of Bannockburn colors with a larger than normal sett. I know this isn't one of your listed options, but it's my best advice. The black and red MacGregor can be had from stock in a heavyweight fabric. I wouldn't go to the trouble of a custom weave for such a simple design.

**Nathan** · 25th February 14, 04:56 PM

I'm still trying to figure out what a diced waistcoat is but here goes:

Wear whichever tartan you like. You are associated with all of them, name and clan so fill your boots.

I wouldn't wear a 5 button waistcoat with a Prince Charlie. I'd get a three button bias cut tartan waistcoat to match a particular kilt and bring my PC when I was being measured for it to ensure the bottom of the waistcoat and the coatee line up correctly.

I have a five button tartan waistcoat and wear it with an Argyll rather than with a PC.

Cheers!

Nathan

**OC Richard** · 25th February 14, 05:20 PM

Since you already have MacGregor kilts, I would go with one of the Leckie tartans.

It's hard to tell from the computer-generated images what those two colour schemes would look like when woven. But, if they haven't been woven yet, correct? so that is all you have to go on? That makes it a very difficult decision. Thing about tartans, and perhaps especially red-and-green tartans, is that you can get a large number of very different appearances due to shifts in the red and the green.

About the vest I would go, personally, with the higher one, because you can wear it equally well with Evening Dress and with Day Dress and on its own without a jacket. Tartan vests are very flexible that way! And you can wear it with any of your other kilts- the vest can be of a different tartan than the kilt if you wish. Personally I don't think it looks bad to wear a higher vest with a Prince Charlie or other Evening jacket.

Here's an example of how different a red/green tartan can look, given somewhat subtle colour shifts. These are two versions of a tartan I've been working on (a variant on MacDonald of the Isles, for my family, Cook/MacCook)

**Stan** · 25th February 14, 06:09 PM

OC Richard, thank you for your feed back, and no they haven't been woven, and yes the photos of the tartan are the only thing that I have to go on. Seeing that Leckie is a sept of clan Gregor, I find it interesting that the two Leckie tartans have a large resemblance to the Mac Gregor tartans. I'm of the opinion that they are almost a "derivation" of the MacGregor red and green, and of the MacGregor Red and black.

I hadn't thought of the multi-color aspect of the Leckie red and green Leckie, and thanks for pointing that out. I've read a many of postings, (as with the others too) and I appreciate, and value your opinion. Thank you.

**OC Richard** · 25th February 14, 07:09 PM

Thanks!

Quite possibly they are derived from MacGregor. That's what I did, start with a traditional MacDonald tartan and add a few lines, and switch colours of a couple lines.

So Leckie has a green/red ground with two blue stripes in the red, but what are the two stripes in the green? They look white in one, and I can't tell which colour in the other.

EDIT: I did a quick search online and it looks like yes white lines in the green.

Have you considered the Dalgliesh 'reproduction' colours? They are extremely beautiful and I myself wouldn't hesitate to get Leckie in Reproduction.

**davidlpope** · 25th February 14, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by OC Richard

Thanks!

Quite possibly they are derived from MacGregor. That's what I did, start with a traditional MacDonald tartan and add a few lines, and switch colours of a couple lines.

So Leckie has a green/red ground with two blue stripes in the red, but what are the two stripes in the green? They look white in one, and I can't tell which colour in the other.

I think it's much more likely they were derived from the Lennox tartan. The crimson outerchecks on the green and the two sets of double-stripes give it away. The only other tartans that I know to employ this scarlet/crimson effect are Macnab and the original, correctly-woven Rose tartans.

**Stan** · 25th February 14, 09:26 PM

Yes, I really like the Leckie reproduction colors too, and have given it some serious thought. My first choice is a toss up between the repro colors and the "modern" colors. The red and green has been third on my list because while I'm not really a "green guy" I'd considered having it pleated to stripe so that it wasn't quit so green. I have a kilt in the MacGregor red, and green that has about the same amount of green in it.

Wearing an obscure tartan like the Leckie tartan would be interesting, but for some reason I kind of feel attracted to it, almost like Richard Dreyfuss was attracted to the mountain (volcano vent) in the movie "close encounters"...LOL...

When I was watching a youtube vid of the march up the tartan mile, in the group of Clan Gregor's, I saw some one in the crowd wearing the Leckie modern tartan.

**OC Richard** · 26th February 14, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by davidlpope

I think it's much more likely they were derived from the Lennox tartan. The crimson outerchecks on the green and the two sets of double-stripes give it away. The only other tartans that I know to employ this scarlet/crimson effect are Macnab and the original, correctly-woven Rose tartans.

Good eye there! I hadn't noticed the crimson on those little CGI images.

On the Reproduction tartan it shows up as a dull mustard

http://www.scotweb.co.uk/tartan/Leck...olours-/493698

I have a love for red/green tartans in Reproduction colours ever since, at a Highland Games, one of the firms had on display a mannequin wearing a kilt and bias-cut Sherrifmuir jacket in matching red/green Reproduction tartan (I don't remember the specific tartan). It was the most beautiful Evening Dress I'd ever seen!

**Sammac** · 25th February 14, 07:16 PM

I would vote for a kilt in your family tartan. I am in a similar circumstance being a member of Clan Campbell, but my family is a sept. So I have both Campbell and a MacDiarmid kilts.

**Stan** · 25th February 14, 05:50 PM

Natan, my apologies, I should have said "Cut on the Bias" for the waistcoat. I guess at the time of writing I couldn't get kilt hose out of my mind. Thank you for your opinion, and feed back.