Regimental ties

**frank_a** · 27th March 14, 12:41 PM

No more expensive dress clothes for me (like those bensilver ties). I'm retiring in a few years, and intend to wear out my suits and dress clothes over that span of time. If I do buy anything, it will be kilt related. And I'll hold on to my collection of ties...

Frank

**Jock Scot** · 27th March 14, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Chas

I would say most definitely - Yes.

Yes I agree, for certain sure.

**TheOfficialBren** · 27th March 14, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Here we have the classic situation of smoke and mirrors of the unwritten conventions of; "its just not done" or in this case;" it is done."

Your brother served as a Marine so it would be perfectly correct for him to wear the leatherneck tartan. Whereas it would "not done" for me so to do. Written rules do not exist in these situations, just like the regimental tie situation, and relies on the descretion of the public at large to do the "right thing".

I agree, Jock. My thoughts exactly.

**creagdhubh** · 27th March 14, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by TheOfficialBren

My brother is ex-USMC. He likes the tartan but has a qualm with it not being 'official' in a way. He'd actually wear that over one of our family tartans...if he were to ever own a kilt (which is unlikely, although he digs the leatherneck tartan a lot).

Your brother is a former active-duty Marine, I take it? He will ALWAYS be a U.S. Marine. There is no such thing as an "ex-Marine," unless of course the Marine was dishonourably discharged, therefore being stripped of the title. Marines earn the title of U.S. Marine and once earned, it is for life.

**DyerStraits** · 27th March 14, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by frank_a

No more expensive dress clothes for me (like those bensilver ties). I'm retiring in a few years, and intend to wear out my suits and dress clothes over that span of time. If I do buy anything, it will be kilt related. And I'll hold on to my collection of ties...

Frank

Amen, Brother. I plan to move to Arizona a few years before I reach retirement age--I don't plan to ever truly retire in the conventional sense--and intend to wear my kilts virtually every day, most of which will be spent golfing, hiking in the hills, volunteering, etc. Looking forward to shedding my heavy Chicago wardrobe (although I'll be keeping my cashmere sweaters). Hope you have a wonderful retirement as well.

**Geoff Withnell** · 27th March 14, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by TheOfficialBren

My brother is ex-USMC. He likes the tartan but has a qualm with it not being 'official' in a way. He'd actually wear that over one of our family tartans...if he were to ever own a kilt (which is unlikely, although he digs the leatherneck tartan a lot).

It is not actually possible (short of court martial) to be an ex-Marine. The tartan isn't official, but I have seen a piper wearing it at a formal Retreat at 8th and I (USMC Headquarters).

**creagdhubh** · 28th March 14, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by Geoff Withnell

It is not actually possible (short of court martial) to be an ex-Marine. The tartan isn't official, but I have seen a piper wearing it at a formal Retreat at 8th and I (USMC Headquarters).

If you are court martialed, dishonourably discharged, or both, from the U.S. Marine Corps, then you forfeit your title of U.S. Marine. At least that's how us 2/2 Warlords (Camp Lejeune, NC) felt about it! Unfortunately, we had one of our fellow Marines in 2/2 go through such an ordeal. And without going into specifics, he brought disgrace upon himself, his unit, the Corps, and ulitmately his country. Marines don't conduct themselves in such a manner. Therefore, he is no longer a U.S. Marine in our eyes. Period.

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Semper Fidelis and Ductus Exemplo,

**frank_a** · 28th March 14, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by DyerStraits

Amen, Brother. I plan to move to Arizona a few years before I reach retirement age--I don't plan to ever truly retire in the conventional sense--and intend to wear my kilts virtually every day, most of which will be spent golfing, hiking in the hills, volunteering, etc. Looking forward to shedding my heavy Chicago wardrobe (although I'll be keeping my cashmere sweaters). Hope you have a wonderful retirement as well.

I won't be moving till I retire, but then just over towards Buffalo NY to be closer to kids and grandkids. We have a small fiberglass travel trailer (http://www.parkliner.com/) that we intend to use to travel south in the winter and north in the summer and just use whatever house we buy near our kids as a temporary residence. I can't wait!

Cheers!

Frank

**TheOfficialBren** · 28th March 14, 10:27 PM

Thank you for your correction, Kyle. Yes. Formerly active duty. Discharged honourably.

Thank you for clarifying.

Dad was in the army, as were both grandfathers, my ither brother, most of my cousins (one currently with JAG) and uncles and one aunt, many of them combat veterans.
One uncle was in the navy.

LONG military tradition in our family stretching back centuries and nearly unbroken from the Britain to America.

I think some regimental ties for them are on the Christmas list this coming year.

**Just Hugh** · 29th March 14, 07:16 PM

I have to say this makes me hesitate to wear the type of tie that is most well suited to match with a kilt.

I also observed a wonderful sartorial effect: the tie that has a color that is not in the kilt plaid, but is then in the hose, or the flashes and pocket square.

I will have to try to find a tie that does that with some red to wear with the Lamont kilt, which has no red, but that doesn't suggest that I'm associated with a regiment that I am not.

A tough proposition.