Which tartan for MacClive?

**MacCorquodale** · 12th May 14, 10:49 PM

Oh and as for Aberdeenshire, I don't find much other than my grandfather being born there and that is it. So, it is doubtful they originated there.

**MacCorquodale** · 12th May 14, 11:01 PM

This is a link to Mr. Smith's credentials on the tartan authority:

http://www.tartansauthority.com/rese...p-d-smith-jnr/

A link that isn't his own website as far as I know and one that has been referred to in this thread as credible besides their CYA policy.

It's gonna take some real evidence to throw his research out in my eyes.

Anyway, I'm going to bow out of this thread unless something else happens in the meantime that seems to hurt the credibility of Mr. Smith.

I appreciate your help immensely, Nathan and all. Thank you!

**Downunder Kilt** · 12th May 14, 11:16 PM

Hi MacCorquodale, could you give us the record of your granfathers birth. I have gone throught the 1841 to 1891 census for Scotland and do not get a hit for MacClive anywhere. In the 1851 I get a MacLive family in Gamrie -Banffshire where the father and son are listed as Coopers
The village is in the same part of Scotland as Fraserburgh (within 60 miles) but I cannot find the family again in subsequent census. The son James was 16 at the census, so could possibly be yor GGF. James father is named William, born 1800 in Glasgow. Cheers

**MacCorquodale** · 12th May 14, 11:30 PM

Yeah, no problem.

His name was Ian Robert McClive. He was born in 1909 in Fraserburgh. This comes from Scotland's people statutory births. His father was Thomas Edward McClive and he was listed as a journeyman Cooper. His mother's name was Hutcheson.

**Calgacus** · 13th May 14, 01:23 AM

Gamrie is also known as Gardenstown, and is only 15 miles from Fraserburgh. It's a pretty little fishing village on the north east coast.

I'm no expert but I believe a lot of highlanders moved to the lowlands and also into the fishing industry during the 19th century as a result of the clearances and the industrial revolution. Many of those cleared were forced to move to the coast and take up fishing as an alternative to working their old lands. Once in the fishing industry they were particularly mobile and I'm guessing many relocated around Scotland and further afield as a result.

I know none of this helps you trace exactly where your ancestors originated from, I'm just suggesting how a highlander might have ended up working in a coastal Aberdeenshire village.

Good luck with your search!