Kilt Modesty Rant

[Leonhardt]

I just what to point out a little observation I had yesterday about men in kilts. I thought it was a little funny. Now I realize that this may not be true around this country or even the world for that matter.

So let me think here how to put this cleanly. Men in general enjoy noticing women and a lot of men enjoy seeing things a little more exposed. OK, I won't go any further, because I think everyone gets what I am hinting at and I am not going to pretend I am not one of those men. It's just a males basic nature that goes into all kinds of opinions and moral beliefs. That said.........

I was at the Scottish Festival yesterday and I noticed a lot of men wearing shorts or speedo's under their kilts. Now let me make it clear I could care less if some man goes commando or wears undergarments under their kilt and that's is their preference, but to wear shorts or speedo's seems to me to be......1 pointless and 2 a bit of a double standard. Don't you think women would like some eye candy? If you're worried that someone might see your junk or underwear. don't you think you should learn to wear or move and sit in a kilt correctly. I mean come on...... men brag about their junk all the time! So, don't you think. That if they are that worried about their modesty. They would be a little more respectful towards a Woman's modesty? Ok I'm letting myself get carried away.

So, I can't help but to wonder about a couple of things. Is men wearing shorts under their kilts a common thing?

I am not sure how to pose my other questions and I am to new to this forum to know if this is the forum to have this discussion, but I just wanted to rant, lol.

Charlie

[Dale-of-Cedars]

I assume it is competitors at the games you're referring to, spinning to throw the hammer for example, where you saw all this displayed underwear. Otherwise you'd have to be walking around with a mirror on a stick...
I believe it's standard for competitors to wear undergarments, if not an actual rule or requirement when signing up for participation. Can someone who competes at events enlighten us?

[Chas]

How do you know, how respectful I am, or for that matter any other man is?

I can remember "bragging about my junk", but in my defence I was only 14 at the time.

I have read your post twice now and for the life of me still don't understand it - Are you for or against underwear?
Who knows?
More to the point - Who cares?

[cessna152towser]

OK I confess to having worn shorts under a kilt the first time I ever ventured out in a kilt. Though I have never done so again. I believe that shorts or speedos are fine for highland games athletes but otherwise one might wish to look the part and create the illusion of being a "true Scot" while avoiding the risk of accidental exposure, this being achieved by the wearing of dark coloured briefs. A proper kilt, because of the stitched down fell, should never lift high enough, even in the cruellest wind, to expose the briefs and the only time underwear would be glimpsed would be if the kilt wearer sat carelessly. A kilt liner might also be worn to keep the kilt clean but again this should be discreet and should match the main colour of the kilt tartan. In my opinion, underpants showing below shorts is quite OK, but visible underwear just doesn't look right with a kilt. I'll keep my big white underpants for wearing with trousers or shorts and my dark briefs for wearing with my kilts.

[McMurdo]

I think the question of whether or not to wear anything under the kilt rests upon each kilt wearer, it is up to each of us to figure this out in the light of the circumstances. For example when I was wearing the kilt daily to work I wore underwear under the kilt to mitigate any accidental exposure. If I will be around children or in a business environment then I dress accordingly, just like anywhere else but that is up to me to decide.

[TheOfficialBren]

I think the OP is referring to a practise that is oft-repeated in some parts of the US.

To answer your question:
They are probably self-conscious about kilt wearing and haven't committed. These are the types who will kilt up in the car park at the Highland games and remove the kilt before getting back in the car upon leaving, literally wearing the kilt over their cargo/board/athletic/whatever shorts.

I believe the OP is specifically referring to this. I have seen it at literally every Highland Games and Celtic music festival in my area.

[Leonhardt]

[QUOTE=Dale-of-Cedars;1239340]I assume it is competitors at the games you're referring to, spinning to throw the hammer for example, where you saw all this displayed underwear. Otherwise you'd have to be walking around with a mirror on a stick...
I believe it's standard for competitors to wear undergarments, if not an actual rule or requirement when signing up for participation. Can someone who competes at events enlighten us?[/QUOT

No it was men wear short kilts or long shorts or sitting with their legs spread for the world to see.

[Leonhardt]

How do you know, how respectful I am, or for that matter any other man is?

Maybe you missed that I said, "Now I realize that this may not be true around this country or even the world for that matter." I also said,"Men in general."

Never did I say "Chas" so I would guess if you're going to be offended and feel accused by a general statement and what happens in a local area across the world from you I would suggest taking a good long look in the mirror.

and as I stated before I am new to kilts and still learning the community of kilt wearers.

[EagleJCS]

It is quite common for pipe band members to wear their kilt over shorts. That way, they can wear their shorts to & from the contest without wrinkling their kilt. They can also remove the kilt if they want to move around 'incognito' (though most people know they're in a band 'cause of the the shirt/tie/hat combo).

Personally, I don't feel comfortable wearing a kilt without some sort of undergarment. (I have a slight allergic reaction to wearing wool).

[Johnston]

being a fat guy, I prefer black briefs under my kilt, simply to avoid my flab chafing and the like.

on a side note, I have seen shorts hanging down below the underwear on punk kids and the like, but I don't think I have ever seen the underbritches hanging out 'below' the shorts.

AJ