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8th July 14, 12:51 AM
#31
I will have to say that I'm not a fan of this tartan regardless of it's intended use .
I would think that a designer charged with making a tartan for Team Scotland should be a bit more objective . If you read the article ( which I will post the link below ) , it is somewhat telling that she designed it to promote a female perspective , especially when you read her opening comments .
Absolutely nothing wrong with that , although , Team Scotland is both female and male . You will notice when she was asked about it being " feminine " , she claimed it was a "unisex " tartan ... that is probably debatable especially if an honest poll was conducted .
Please don't misunderstand ... in today's world , I do understand someone wanting to design a unisex tartan for Team Scotland ( not necessary but I understand it ) . However , it would appear that she went with a bias that she justified by calling it " unisex " rather than being objective about it .
My only point is ... if one is going to design a tartan for Team Scotland then be objective about it and go to the female and male athletes with some options / ideas / samples and get their input instead of a fashion designer's subjective idea .... after all , it will become their tartan .
I know the media reports that the team likes it .... of course that's to be expected but probably not entirely true ( what else can the team say without being controversial ) .
As someone who is involved in architectural design , we certainly design the end product to be acceptable to the customer ( whether that is a single individual or a group of people ) . We do not come up with a " monument " to ourselves and suggest it on others . Of course , I understand the fashion world operates a bit differently .
At any rate , my apologies for the long post / rant , just thought this selection of a tartan for Team Scotland was a bit one sided .
Cheers , Mike
The article :
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/commonwealth-games/25766330
Mike Montgomery
Clan Montgomery Society , International
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8th July 14, 01:18 PM
#32
I seldom criticise a tartan as it's (usually) just not done but here it goes:
It's hideous and knowing that the designer injected her personal political views into the project when she should have served the team and the nation by extension lost her some credibility.
I see her political views all over that tartan. I do not see Scotland's rich cultural traditions nor the gorgeous landscape. I see a cultural icon being hijacked for selfish purposes.
The colour scheme is horrid.
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8th July 14, 01:32 PM
#33
I get the feeling that this was more a design exercise in use of color than a proper tartan design.
Suppose for a moment, that this tartan were rendered in a more familiar color palette, say tartan red for the pink and a darker shade of blue, with a proper brown, etc. It would still be unpleasant to look at because it doesn't work as a tartan.
The colors are just that, blocks of color with no particular thought given to their interaction.
'A damned ill-conditioned sort of an ape. It had a can of ale at every pot-house on the road, and is reeling drunk. "
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8th July 14, 03:08 PM
#34
Originally Posted by MacGumerait
I will have to say that I'm not a fan of this tartan regardless of it's intended use .
Absolutely nothing wrong with that , although , Team Scotland is both female and male . You will notice when she was asked about it being " feminine " , she claimed it was a "unisex " tartan ... that is probably debatable especially if an honest poll was conducted .
Please don't misunderstand ... in today's world , I do understand someone wanting to design a unisex tartan for Team Scotland ( not necessary but I understand it ) . However , it would appear that she went with a bias that she justified by calling it " unisex " rather than being objective about it .
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/commonwealth-games/25766330
the tartan may be "unisex" in the sense both men and women will think it looks awful :mrgreen:
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8th July 14, 03:36 PM
#35
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8th July 14, 03:59 PM
#36
Originally Posted by ForresterModern
My grandmother always told me that if I couldn't say something nice about something, don't say anything at all...
I was taught the same thing, and in general I agree, but sometimes one must also speak up for what is right and proper.
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9th July 14, 02:10 AM
#37
Haha. I think ForesterModern spoke very loudly.
Lots of blankity blank.
Well done, sir.
The Official [BREN]
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9th July 14, 07:02 AM
#38
I like the "no belt" look of the kilts. Trust the kilt straps. Wearing a belt with a tartan kilt just seems like wearing suspenders with a belt on bifurcated garments. Kudos for that wee bit.
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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9th July 14, 11:24 AM
#39
I couldn't find the earlier thread but is the designer of this abomination the same one that produced the rather feminine pastel coloured tartan in the earlier thread (people standing on a flight of steps). If so, that explains all. And we weren't keen on that one either.
Regards, Sav.
"The Sun Never Sets on X-Marks!"
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9th July 14, 12:28 PM
#40
It might be fine if the games were to be held in Bermuda.
President, Clan Buchanan Society International
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