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20th July 14, 09:34 PM
#11
I happen to think that the shepherds plaid look good for casual wear as well. Sort of like diced, but not really.
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20th July 14, 11:33 PM
#12
In fact I prefer diced hose to full clan hose. I have an old pair of Scots Guards red/green diced hose as well as pairs of full clan hose for Royal Stewart and for Muted McLeod but think I might get a pair of diced hose in a 'muted' blue and green colour.
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21st July 14, 12:59 AM
#13
 Originally Posted by Thomas H
OK is it OK then to wear dice hose with day wear as I love that look . And side note ,is it OK to wear a long hair sporran with day wear ?
Short answer, No.
There is a member here who has been known to wear both tartan hose and hair sporran with day wear and I think he makes it work fantastically, however it is in my view an exceedingly hard thing to do well and generally best avoided. Diced hose with daywear is not a combination that works as a modern combination.
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21st July 14, 01:06 AM
#14
Not unless you've got the right gear. My old friend Steve McVeigh could carry it off with this outfit. I remember him telling me that he got the jacket and vest fashioned from old photos of P/M GS McLennan :-
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21st July 14, 08:03 AM
#15
 Originally Posted by Ron Abbott
Not unless you've got the right gear. My old friend Steve McVeigh could carry it off with this outfit. I remember him telling me that he got the jacket and vest fashioned from old photos of P/M GS McLennan :-
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As a piper this works as it is part of a uniform, as a civilian I don't think this is the right way to go as a civilian I will save my diced hose for formal wear.
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21st July 14, 11:52 AM
#16
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
If that is what you want to wear then do so. However you will look, at the very least, rather theatrical.
Diced turn down tops I think are spot on for day wear. Diced hose (as in from knee to toe) I must disagree are not day wear hose.
Last edited by Wil; 21st July 14 at 11:58 AM.
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21st July 14, 01:07 PM
#17
In my opinon:
Self-coloured hose, or hose with patterned tops (cuffs) look splendid with day attire. Diced/Argyll style hose look equally splendid for black or white tie affairs. However, there is certainly nothing incorrect about wearing self-coloured/hose with patterened tops for evening wear as well.
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21st July 14, 01:41 PM
#18
I have diced and tartan hose and would not wear them with tweed day wear. I reserve them for the more formal end of black tie and for white tie occasions.
There have been some long and detailed threads about this.
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21st July 14, 05:51 PM
#19
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
If that is what you want to wear then do so. However you will look, at the very least, rather theatrical.
This is a critical point, though I would have worded it differently.
When someone speaks of Highland Dress as traditional, it implies that it has evolved to its present state through an unbroken lineage of antecedents from an unknown origin.
(The evolution or change wasn't at a steady pace but at what is called, to borrow a term from another field, punctuated equilibrium. After over a half-century of relative stability Highland Dress underwent a fairly rapid and thorough transformation around 1900, producing the Traditional Highland Dress we know today.)
To go back along that unbroken chain of evolutionary stages and pluck something out (say, from 1880, or 1780) and wear it today would be an example of historical, rather than traditional, dress, or as Jock is implying, a costume.
Since around 1900 it's been plain/selfcoloured hose and outdoor brogues with Day Dress. Tartan and dice hose were reserved for Evening Dress. Mixing these two modes was to be avoided. However it's easy to find photographs of men wearing diced and tartan hose with Day Dress well past the c1900 point, so the 'rule' wasn't always followed.
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21st July 14, 05:56 PM
#20
 Originally Posted by McMurdo
As a piper this works as it is part of a uniform, as a civilian I don't think this is the right way to go...
I will point out that the jacket Steve is wearing is purely civilian. It's a version of the jacket nearly universally worn by civilians (pipers or not) throughout the latter half of the 19th century and well up into the early years of the 20th.
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