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    So be it. It was relivant to the discussion. I'll place myself in the cooler for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
    Thanks. Benefit of the doubt is all I am asking for. I don't intend to break any rules. I see political comments are basically a no go. Gun talk is mostly a no go. I made a comment about people being able to CHOOSE to wear a skirt and make up if they want to. And that they may even get less flack for it in this day and age than one of us in a kilt. So it was suggested I may have been borderline offensive to cross dressers. Which was never my intent. So reread my original post with that in mind.
    Yeah, I probably would have looked over that comment about men in skirts. It didn't read the same to me. I get your idea that men in kilts are probably not as well received. A member of my family says that kilts are not seen let alone worn on a daily basis in our area. Not supportive. So, I get it. If you are referring to Manxstralian's comment, I don't think he was saying your comment was out of line as much as he was saying his comment might be. Then again…it is up to the moderators. Kilt on anyway.
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    "Never rise to speak till you have something to say; and when you have said it, cease."-John Knox Witherspoon

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    With the greatest of respect to all, Americans do not have the monopoly of freedom of speech, or brashness, or uncouthness. However Americans do outnumber most of us, so as a percentage of population the not so good side of America can appear a national trait.

    I have had the pleasure and privilege of spending quite of lot of time with seven Americans in the last week or so, at various times and places and enjoyed every second of the time spent with them. Brash? Uncouth? No way! Polite? Interesting? Oh yes!
    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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    Im new as well and im sure you will be fine . Some times what you say can be taken the wrong way you can make a joke and some one can be insulted by it when no harm was meant. I my self just got a yellow card today for posting an hilarious joke that was posted on another forum . I even edited it to remove offensive words but it was removed and i got the aforementioned yellow card . Im not upset or bothered by this its just life. Not every one has the same sense of humour. When you are in someone else's house you live by there rools not the rools of your own house, so some times you do have to think twice. But so long as you just enjoy and don't be offended if you do get edited youll be fine .

    I have found this place very informative and helpful .

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    I find it's always useful to think this way: If something might be taken the wrong way... don't bother saying it unless it's critically important to say it, and then think very carefully. That way it's rare to be taken the wrong way.
    Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Bill View Post
    I find it's always useful to think this way: If something might be taken the wrong way... don't bother saying it unless it's critically important to say it, and then think very carefully. That way it's rare to be taken the wrong way.
    Good advice but: "Communication usually fails, except by accident".
    For more details see: "Wiio's laws" or here.
    I have found this law very accurate and useful to keep in mind.
    Last edited by Kylahullu; 25th July 14 at 04:28 AM. Reason: Typo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylahullu View Post
    Good advice but: "Communication usually fails, except by accident".
    For more details see: "Wiio's laws" or here.
    I have found this law very accurate and useful to keep in mind.
    Perhaps just a little cynical here? I'm not writing about not speaking, I'm writing about speaking in ways that don't carry the greatest liklihood of offence. Those can be safely omitted.
    Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Bill View Post
    I find it's always useful to think this way: If something might be taken the wrong way... don't bother saying it unless it's critically important to say it, and then think very carefully. That way it's rare to be taken the wrong way.
    Sage advise indeed, Father Bill. It is much better to think before you speak. I have often worried about the things I post on here might be too opinionated, too political, or too pointless. Fortunately, I have not received any warnings. I am glad for that. I have had one minor misunderstanding, but it was dealt with in a kind way, I feel. I am the better for it.
    KC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
    I dont mean to be rude. I love this forum, and the resources available to me as a new kilt wearer. Looking at some of the threads that have previously been locked. I can see I will have to be careful about my veiws and thoughts. I mean no harm. But as a red blooded American we are used to the freedom to discuss critical thoughts. I have a lot to learn about kilts, Celts, Scotish / Irish culture and the moddest ways to say or not say things to mixed audiences. So all I ask is that you teach me. Dont sensor me. I am not a robot and I wont be programmed. I can be guided though.

    With the most humble respect and love for all people,
    Joseph
    Why do you feel the need to post this?

    Why do you feel the need to insist that you are american with freedoms (haven't we all?) and ask not to be censored?

    What makes you so special?

    Why should the sites mods censor (with a c) all of us, but not you?

    Wasn't it you who entitled your post "a little brash and maybe uncouth"?

    Maybe your post (in my opinion) proved that title, just a little.

    Edited to add:

    If you don't like the house rules, there are other places to spend your time.
    Last edited by BCAC; 25th July 14 at 11:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Bill View Post
    Perhaps just a little cynical here? I'm not writing about not speaking, I'm writing about speaking in ways that don't carry the greatest liklihood of offence. Those can be safely omitted.
    Well, I think this post just shows how right Wiio was .

    No, that does not mean that one must not say anything, nor do I see it cynical. If one reads the second link in my previous post (also here) one might realize that the "Wiio's law" is not only humour. We should also keep in mind that Osmo A. Wiio was one of the leading researchers of communication between humans and his books were (are?) used in several universities. That "law" was written in one of his books to wake students minds.

    This Law has come to my mind several times here when seeing two countries separated by a common language.
    Last edited by Kylahullu; 27th July 14 at 10:56 PM. Reason: typo
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